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| mqjeff |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Now I'm curious. |
You've been curious for a long time, and are only getting curiouser and curiouser in your old age. |
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
A wild guess is just a belief until you research and test to validate your belief - which you have now done.
As a consultant, I never use the "wild guess" term.
Rather, until I'd done the research/testing/validation process, I would say something like "I believe that the mysterious message in the queue is a "seed" message." Or, more likely, I'd say that I will do some research, and get back to you. |
If my wild guess has some logic behind then technically I would use that and to eliminate the doubts I do the testing on my local machine. same as I did here. 
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| Now I'm curious. |
You've been curious for a long time, and are only getting curiouser and curiouser in your old age. |
I believe the original post content is based on curiosity and being curious is not bad at all at any age (even if you got 12K+ posts ) and this forum attracts me all the times because of such questions and quick responses every time on every question. Keep the curiosity high until you get the satisfactory answer, keep asking/demanding/looking for. 
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| PeterPotkay |
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I do agree that its better to understand the underlying whys of how something works, as it will allow you to figure out more problems on your own, and how to avoid problems. But eventually you get deep enough that you have to accept the answer "Because that's just the way it is." and move on. Especially when the root answer is related to human decisions. I guess you could never stop asking subsequent whys when it comes to questions like Why is the sky blue when you are dealing with science and nature.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Keep the curiosity high until you get the satisfactory answer, keep asking/demanding/looking for.
A caution here: if your questions demonstrate (or appear) that you don't understad the basics, or that you haven't read the manuals, or that you have done little/no research on your own, then expect curt replies and/or no replies.
Our commitment here is to provide assistence to mq professionals. Professionals means those with mq skills, research and testing skills, communication skills. Communication skills mean being able to succintly describe symptoms you see, testing methodology you've used, and results you've obtained.
Many contributors find it annoying when posters ask us to do their research, their testing, and their analysis. I want to see your research, your testing, your analysis. I want to know what you have learned on your own, to demonstrate that you have skin in the game, that you are not a lurker - asking questions, getting replies, then arguing about the replies. Take a risk.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
Keep the curiosity high until you get the satisfactory answer, keep asking/demanding/looking for.
A caution here: ... Take a risk. |
Keep asking first to yourself !
Keep Demanding first from yourself !
Keep Looking for , first in your repository/library of concepts/logs of basics
Then after, if don't get any answer(s) { neither from the books nor from other sources } except what your logical wild guess says/answers to you... believe in that and move on with that, to learn new things !!!!
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