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jeevan
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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I am puzzled as to a simply fingure out wheather I have 32 or 64 bit MQ/MQ client installed.

What happened is, I installed mq client in an aix server where DataStage is running. The plan is to connect to a qmgr from DS as MQ client.

I created channel, configured mqclient.ini file, test connection and gave details to him: qmgr, channel and queue names( as he uses mqclient.ini so does not need a port information)


After a few days the guy came back to me and asked that I need to isntall 32 bit MQ client on the server for DS to use mq adapter( one of the two methods of connecting mq from DS)

In Linux, even there is separate product for 64 bit version. But in Aix and specially MQ client, I did not find different product ( I mean MQ client 64/32 bit version)

The Aix version the MQ client is installed is 5.3.8. when I checked the kernel version it is 64 bit.

When I checked /usr/mqm I found both lib and lib64 directorie and both have similar number of jar files in them.

Also, I tried to find out weather there is any command which tells me which verion of MQ is installed such as rpm -aqi in Linux but I could not find.

In some posts, I found reference of LIBPATH setup, but in our case, LIBPATH is not set at all.

Question:

How can I say that my MQ client is 64 bit is 32? or it depends on how we use it( which library files do we use)?


Why there are files in both libraries " /../../lib|lib64?


If for example, it depends which library do we use, how do we tell MQ control command how to use particular library?

Thanks


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gbaddeley
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After a few days the guy came back to me and asked that I need to isntall 32 bit MQ client on the server for DS to use mq adapter( one of the two methods of connecting mq from DS)


What was his reason for asking that? Was he experiencing an error? (post here)

MQ ships with both 32 and 64 bit libraries and a client application can be compiled / linked as either 32 or 64 bit mode and it should run ok.
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jeevan
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gbaddeley wrote:
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After a few days the guy came back to me and asked that I need to isntall 32 bit MQ client on the server for DS to use mq adapter( one of the two methods of connecting mq from DS)


What was his reason for asking that? Was he experiencing an error? (post here)

MQ ships with both 32 and 64 bit libraries and a client application can be compiled / linked as either 32 or 64 bit mode and it should run ok.


Yes. Initially, he got some error. I did not ask as he is the DS expert. He then opened a PMR and IBM replied that.

It is not an application so I do not think he can compile with 64 bit library but there should be some way to tell DS configuration to use lib not lib64. However, I am planning to seat with him and work. I will then know what exact error he is getting.

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exerk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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jeevan wrote:
...After a few days the guy came back to me and asked that I need to isntall 32 bit MQ client on the server for DS to use mq adapter( one of the two methods of connecting mq from DS)...


This implies that WMQ Client is not installed/was not installed on the DS server (being pedantic, it's now called WebSphere Transformation Extender [WTE]) but that contradicts:

jeevan wrote:
...I created channel, configured mqclient.ini file, test connection and gave details to him: qmgr, channel and queue names( as he uses mqclient.ini so does not need a port information)...


Unless you also gave him a copy of your mqclient.ini file? And I am a little confused - is the queue manager on Linux, and WTE/WMQ Client on AIX? Please post what is where, including WMQ versions, WTE/DS TX versions and hopefully some help can be provided.
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jeevan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
jeevan wrote:
...After a few days the guy came back to me and asked that I need to isntall 32 bit MQ client on the server for DS to use mq adapter( one of the two methods of connecting mq from DS)...


This implies that WMQ Client is not installed/was not installed on the DS server (being pedantic, it's now called WebSphere Transformation Extender [WTE]) but that contradicts:

jeevan wrote:
...I created channel, configured mqclient.ini file, test connection and gave details to him: qmgr, channel and queue names( as he uses mqclient.ini so does not need a port information)...


Unless you also gave him a copy of your mqclient.ini file? And I am a little confused - is the queue manager on Linux, and WTE/WMQ Client on AIX? Please post what is where, including WMQ versions, WTE/DS TX versions and hopefully some help can be provided.


The client is in Aix box. I configured the client there so I do not need to give him the mqclient.ini file.

The queue manager is on another Aix server. I mentioned Linux in my earlier post just as an example as Linux hass a command to check weather the installed MQ is 64/32 bit.

I still do not have more detailed what error he had etc as he asked me that on Friday and I was researching about this during the weekend. However, I will have further details today.

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exerk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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jeevan wrote:
...The client is in Aix box. I configured the client there so I do not need to give him the mqclient.ini file...


So therefore you know what version of WMQ is installed, and also know already whether it is 32 or 64 bit
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jeevan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
jeevan wrote:
...The client is in Aix box. I configured the client there so I do not need to give him the mqclient.ini file...


So therefore you know what version of WMQ is installed, and also know already whether it is 32 or 64 bit


I know version of MQ, it is 7.0.1 the aix version is 5.3.8. My only question was, unlike Linux where there is separate product for 32/64 bit, how do we know or make it work for 32/64 bit in Aix?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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jeevan wrote:
I know version of MQ, it is 7.0.1 the aix version is 5.3.8. My only question was, unlike Linux where there is separate product for 32/64 bit, how do we know or make it work for 32/64 bit in Aix?


Everything you need to know is in the WMQ AIX Quick Beginnings manual. There is only one MQ Server product for AIX. The MQ processes run as 64 bit, and MQ can accept connections from either 32 bit or 64 bit apps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:

the DS server (being pedantic, it's now called WebSphere Transformation Extender [WTE]) but that contradicts:


This was my understanding too until, a not so pleased ETL Guru gave me a piece of his mind by saying that only the DataStage Transformation Extender got re-branded in a Purple Wine Bottle as WebSphere Transformation Extender.

DataStage is now part of IM (Green Wine Bottle) and still comes with its own MQ Binaries (Adapters)
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/infosphere/datastage/features.html?S_CMP=rnav
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jeevan
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my MQ installation a 32 bit or 64 bit ? Reply with quote

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harish_td wrote:
exerk wrote:

the DS server (being pedantic, it's now called WebSphere Transformation Extender [WTE]) but that contradicts:


This was my understanding too until, a not so pleased ETL Guru gave me a piece of his mind by saying that only the DataStage Transformation Extender got re-branded in a Purple Wine Bottle as WebSphere Transformation Extender.

DataStage is now part of IM (Green Wine Bottle) and still comes with its own MQ Binaries (Adapters)
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/infosphere/datastage/features.html?S_CMP=rnav


We are talking three things:

DataStage - the main application whic is now called infosphere DataStage which I refer as DataStage

WTX is still there as an independent sfotware or is available as a node inside the message broekr but is the same as DataStage. These are two completely different product ( as I understood)

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/integration/wdatastagetx/
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/websphere/integration/wdatastagetx/1006.pdf


MQadapter in DataStage is an piece of software which enables DataStage
talk to MQ

http://datawarehouse.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/ascential-l/is-it-recommended-to-use-mq-stage-in-datastage-2135210

Guys, however, my question here is not what is what but mq 64/32 issue.


Thanks
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ramires
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQ Client supports both 64 and 32bit applications. If the application was built to use 64 bits, when running it needs the path to MQ 64 bits libraries

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?fdoc=aimwmq&rs=171&uid=swg21220069
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