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| satya_jammy |
 Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:16 am Post subject: installation directory of MQ ? |
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| Can some tell me how i can change the installation directory of mq while installing in solaris. My requirement is to install the mqm in an directory structure given by my client . |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:26 am Post subject: Re: installation directory of MQ ? |
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| satya_jammy wrote: |
| Can some tell me how i can change the installation directory of mq while installing in solaris. My requirement is to install the mqm in an directory structure given by my client . |
And the Quick Beginnings manual for Solaris says what?
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| satya_jammy |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| Quick Beginings says that we need to install the MQ on /opt/mqm directory. instead of /opt/mqm can i specify any other directory structure as its installation directory.. apart from creating a symbolic link from /opt/mqm to this new directory. |
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| satya_jammy |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| my required installation directory doesnot contain mqm folder in its structure |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| satya_jammy wrote: |
| my required installation directory does not contain mqm folder in its structure |
Nor will it until you create it...I suggest you read the manual again.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| satya_jammy wrote: |
| my required installation directory doesnot contain mqm folder in its structure |
No, it wouldn't.
Questions:
- why does the client want a different install directory? What purpose does it serve?
- how have other software products with specific directory requirements been installed on the server in question?
- what's wrong with a sym link?
- what does the manual have to say about this?
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| mvic |
| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:18 am Post subject: Re: installation directory of MQ ? |
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| satya_jammy wrote: |
| Can some tell me how i can change the installation directory of mq while installing in solaris. My requirement is to install the mqm in an directory structure given by my client . |
Please tell your IBM account rep (or the client's IBM rep?) about this requirement. The MQ product today does not support this requirement. Product files are installed to /opt/mqm and the runtime of the product expects the files to be in that location, hard coded. |
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| biruk |
| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Hy,
I'm new in MQ administration, but this should be optional.
On some companies, all the software installed separately from the OS, must be installed on a specific drive:
that drive will be backup at a specific interval.
security reason, they can give access to that folder and monitor the activity more easily.
I'm aware that not all applications store data in their folders, but some do that, and I think is better to have a start point in case of...
We usually work with windows, and this is the main reason  )). |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| biruk wrote: |
| We usually work with windows, and this is the main reason )). |
And if you consult the documentation for Windows you'll notice that WMQ does allow the selection of an installation directory on that platform.
On Solaris and most Unix platforms software goes to a specific directory; in the case of Solaris it's /opt. It's highly unusual to put anything anywhere else and your Solaris admin will probably look at you funny if you ask, hence my question about the requirement and how the client in question runs software already installed on the box.
One reason for this as opposed to the Windows model is there's no reason for /opt/mqm to be stored on the same disc as /opt or any of the other /opt directories. The file path, unlike Windows, doesn't flow from the root. Indeed the documentation for WMQ recommends that the queues (in /var/mqm/qmgrs/<name>/queues) be on a separate disc to the logs (logically adjacent in the directory tree at /var/mqm/qmgrs/<name>/logs) for recovery purposes.
It's like saying (in Unix terms) you want to store data in /opt with the software not /var - everyone will give you a very strange look. 
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| biruk wrote: |
Hy,
I'm new in MQ administration, but this should be optional.
On some companies, all the software installed separately from the OS, must be installed on a specific drive:
that drive will be backup at a specific interval.
security reason, they can give access to that folder and monitor the activity more easily.
I'm aware that not all applications store data in their folders, but some do that, and I think is better to have a start point in case of...
We usually work with windows, and this is the main reason )). |
Ask the sys admin to create a separate file system for /opt/mqm on any available disk. That file system can then be backed up separately at a specific interval. The same goes for /var/mqm.
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| fjb_saper |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| ...separate disc to the logs (logically adjacent in the directory tree at /var/mqm/qmgrs/<name>/logs) for recovery purposes |
I thought the default path for logs was at /var/mqm/logs/<qmgrname>/active... ??
Did that change ? 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| ...separate disc to the logs (logically adjacent in the directory tree at /var/mqm/qmgrs/<name>/logs) for recovery purposes |
I thought the default path for logs was at /var/mqm/logs/<qmgrname>/active... ??
Did that change ? |
Anybody got a Unix box to hand? 
Anyway, my point regarding queues & logs being on separate discs yet adjacent under /var/mqm/qmgrs/<name> holds.
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