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| SANTYP |
 Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:12 am Post subject: Debugger making me to frustrate |
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Hi Guys...
Please help me... in this..
I am using toolkit 6.1.0.3v and my broker is 6.1.0.2..
I started by debugger.. but it took 20 min for launch the debugger..
I put the break points to my flow it takes morethan 2 mins,..
after posting req msg it is talking 1-2 min to move from one break point to another...
please help me to solve my broker issue...
I know that it might not be the right post in the form.. but understand my issue and help me out..
my system has 2gb ram.. 80gb harddist... |
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| I suggest that you use user trace + Trace nodes. |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| kimbert wrote: |
| I suggest that you use user trace + Trace nodes. |
I agree. 
There are many systems in production that were developed without ever seeing the debugger. It is really a matter of personal choice.
That said even when using the debugger (and it is getting better) there are times when user trace + trace nodes is the only way to find out what is really happening inside a flow.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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With it all.
Call me a  but I don't use anything but trace nodes & user trace. I find it easier and the detail seems much deeper.
Other debugging stratergies valid of course. 
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Vitor,
You are a . There again I'm probably one as well...
Steve
(well, you did ask for it)
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| nathanw |
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Makes 3 of us
Have never got on with debugger found it too fiddly to get just so whereas trace nodes and usertrace are simply a matter of
adding to flow
deploying
running trace commands (which can me automated of course)
and see thing problem and fixing
Steve you and I know this all to well
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Grand High Poobah
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| nathanw wrote: |
| Have never got on with debugger found it too fiddly |
It's not just me?? 
I feel the relief flow through me.
Or is it the electricity from this big fence round the enclosure?
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| nathanw |
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mmm could be electricity
watch out for the white coats!
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| SANTYP |
| Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
| kimbert wrote: |
| I suggest that you use user trace + Trace nodes. |
I agree.
There are many systems in production that were developed without ever seeing the debugger. It is really a matter of personal choice.
That said even when using the debugger (and it is getting better) there are times when user trace + trace nodes is the only way to find out what is really happening inside a flow. |
Thanks guys for your suggestions |
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| broker_new |
| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| why not a statement in the ESQL to print the message in the log file at that particular instance (just like system.out.println) in new upcoming release? |
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| mgk |
| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Like the existing ESQL LOG statement you mean? 
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| broker_new |
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| mqmatt |
| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:27 am Post subject: Re: Debugger making me to frustrate |
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| SANTYP wrote: |
I started by debugger.. but it took 20 min for launch the debugger..
I put the break points to my flow it takes morethan 2 mins,..
after posting req msg it is talking 1-2 min to move from one break point to another... |
This sounds like a PMR.
And you might also want to try restarting the toolkit with the -clean option. |
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| WBI_user |
| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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I agreed with all the points on User Trace Vs debugger. In our shop , the development broker is running on UNIX, We all connected remotely using our toolkit. I was told by our WMB administrator that we need to be in mqbrkrs group in order to read and format the user trace. But they will never give that to developers.So we are stuck with debugger.
I read the WMB manual and confirmed what they told me. For those who are using user trace all the time, do you have mqbrkrs authority ? or do you have other ways of getting around this ? |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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You could just ask your Unix admin to give read access to the trace file and read + execute access to the directory to all. 
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