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| lowellmather |
 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I have tried the runmqsc command from the command prompot (just to test the formatting so I could write a batch script) when the service is stopped but for some reason it cannot find the service when it's stopped:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>runmqsc STC3
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2004. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager STC3.
START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
8 : START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
AMQ8147: WebSphere MQ object TRIGGERMONITORUTILITYSTC3 not found.
The Service Name is TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3 as shown in MQExplorer so I'm not sure what other name it could be looking.
I'm am (obviously) new to a lot of MQ but a lot of this stuff has been running for a long time without intervention.
Thanks again - I really appreciate your responses and suggestions. |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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And DIS SERVICE(*) shows what? And don't forget about the case sensitivity of WMQ.
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
8 : START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
AMQ8147: WebSphere MQ object TRIGGERMONITORUTILITYSTC3 not found. |
If you want to preserve mixed-case or lower-case characters, you must enclose the name in apostrophes. If you don't, MQ folds the name to UPPER-CASE.
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| lowellmather |
| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the entire command window sequence - I find it interesting that it says one VALID command could not be processed. Note that the Service is mixed case, but the message displays it back as all Upper?
Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>runmqsc STC3
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2004. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager STC3.
DIS SERVICE(*)
1 : DIS SERVICE(*)
AMQ8629: Display service information details.
SERVICE(SYSTEM.BROKER)
AMQ8629: Display service information details.
SERVICE(SYSTEM.DEFAULT.SERVICE)
AMQ8629: Display service information details.
SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
[AFTER THIS DISPLAY, I MANUALLY STOPPED THE SERVICE IN MQExplorer and used ProcessExplorer to kill the UtilityTriggerMonitor.exe running for the STC3 QMgr. It showed as stopped in MQExplorer]
START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
2 : START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
AMQ8147: WebSphere MQ object TRIGGERMONITORUTILITYSTC3 not found.
end
3 : end
2 MQSC commands read.
No commands have a syntax error.
One valid MQSC command could not be processed.
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>exit |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| If you want to preserve mixed-case or lower-case characters, you must enclose the name in apostrophes. If you don't, MQ folds the name to UPPER-CASE. |
START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
2 : START SERVICE(TriggerMonitorUtilitySTC3)
AMQ8147: WebSphere MQ object TRIGGERMONITORUTILITYSTC3 not found.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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maybe lowellmather would find it easier to substitute 'single quotes' to 'apostrophes' This is more of a cultural thing... 
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| lowellmather |
| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, Bruce, I did not see your post before I posted my question about the upper/lower case issue... |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| substitute 'single quotes' to 'apostrophes' This is more of a cultural thing... |
Indeed. Mea culpa.
A friend from OZ refers to these little critters as ticks. Single-tick, double-tick.
(Google 'apostrophe' to discover its more interesting meanings as it relates to literature.)
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| lowellmather |
| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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SUCCESS! The apostrophes/single quotes did the trick.
Thank you to everyone for sharing your knowledege and experience!!! Very much appreciated! |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Success for manually starting the service from runmqsc? Or for solving why it sometimes doesn't start when the QM starts?
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| lowellmather |
| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Success for manually starting the service from runmqsc - the apostrophes resolved the issue, but is only the short-term fix.
I contacted our operations people about increasing the memory resources on the VM we're using to see if that resolves the primary issue. However, this is very low on their priority list so it's nice to have a workaround in the meantime! |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| o it's nice to have a workaround in the meantime! |
Odd that you would refer to enclosing 'MiXeD-cAsE' object names in single quotes (aposts, ticks) as a workaround. It's not.
Rather, it's a well-documented requirement if you want MQ to maintain lower-case or mixed-case names.
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| lowellmather |
| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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"Odd that you would refer to enclosing 'MiXeD-cAsE' object names in single quotes (aposts, ticks) as a workaround. "
I must be a poor communicator - the workaround to which I was referring was the batch file process... |
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| JosephGramig |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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There are no single nor double quotes on a normal US keyboard.
There is a 'prime' and "double prime" and quotes are curly. I'm no English major and graduated from engineering school a long time ago.
Ticks are something you should have your buddy check you for...
Or, if you mean quirky jerks, maybe medicine will help (like bourbon or tonic water with quinine).
So far as the WMQ PROCESS definition goes, we still have not seen it...
Like Peter, I'm intrigued by your error message. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| There are no single nor double quotes on a normal US keyboard. |
Uh, really? In my keyboards, two keys to the right of the L-key is the " (double) and ' (single-) whatever you want to call them. They've been there for years.
Are you saying that my keyboards are abnormal?
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