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| pfarrel |
 Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: MQ/Explorer multiople copies |
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Can I run multiple copies of MQ/Explorer on a single Windows system ?
When running MQ/Explorer if I right-click on the icon, I can select run-as, and run the tool with a different userID. I would like to run 2 copies with 2 different userIDs, so that I can connect to test and production systems at the same time. Continual shutting down of the product and restarting with a different ID is time consuming. When I try to run a second copy I get the message Could not Launch the Product because the associated workspace is already in use. ( actually, I have the same question for the Broker toolkit ). |
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| bruce2359 |
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| so that I can connect to test and production systems at the same time. |
The wmq explorer product allows you to connect to many qmgrs from a single explorer instance. The v7 product allows you to create groups of qmgrs, like test, qa, prod.
Are you saying that you have a different mqm-group id for test, qa, and prod?
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: Re: MQ/Explorer multiople copies |
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| pfarrel wrote: |
Can I run multiple copies of MQ/Explorer on a single Windows system ?
When running MQ/Explorer if I right-click on the icon, I can select run-as, and run the tool with a different userID. I would like to run 2 copies with 2 different userIDs, so that I can connect to test and production systems at the same time. Continual shutting down of the product and restarting with a different ID is time consuming. When I try to run a second copy I get the message Could not Launch the Product because the associated workspace is already in use. ( actually, I have the same question for the Broker toolkit ). |
Actually, when you log in into windows system using some id then that Id should be the part of mqm group to run the MQ Explorer and do the things in that.
At a time.. you can run one instance of that.
BUT you can connect to multiple QMgrs ( at diff. servers/IPs/Hosts) at a time. That I think can resolve your issue.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: Re: MQ/Explorer multiople copies |
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| pfarrel wrote: |
| ( actually, I have the same question for the Broker toolkit ). |
And i would say.. as a reason on that... in workspace under .metadata folder there are configuration files for which toolkit looks for. If you got more then one workspace, you can ofcourse switch between them, but more then one instances at a time..NO.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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You can change workspaces.
For WMBT this should be immediately available in the File Menu to Switch Workspace.
For MQ Explorer, you have to run in an Eclipse workbench rather than a standalone application. This is a *preference* you set on the main WebSphere MQ preference pane. |
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| ..For MQ Explorer, you have to run in an Eclipse workbench .... |
Yes, as Eclipse is the Prerequisite for MQ Explorer and WBI Toolkit to run.
pfarrel
In WBI Toolkit > menu 'Windows' > Preferences > General > Check 'Start up and Shutdown' AND 'workspace'
.. for more clarifications and details that you seek.(i believe)
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| pfarrel |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Here is how we would use it.
First, log on to windows with your windows ( Active Directory ) userID. For example, winuser1.
Next, right-click on the icon for explorer, and select the run-as option. Tell explorer that you want it to run as aixuserp. At this point ( if it were possible ) you would start a second copy of MQ/Explorer, running under another ID, for example aixusert.
Both users aixuserp and aixusert would need to be defined as valid windows users.
Now, using the copy that is running as userID aixuserp, connect to several aix production queue managers. Each one would have the user aixuserp defined as a valid AIX userID, and the ID would be in the mqm group on those systems.
Also, using the other copy of MQ/Explorer that is running under the aixusert userID, connect to several test queue managers. Each one of those queue managers would be running on a system where aixusert was a valid ID, and would be in the mqm group on that system.
The problem this solves, is that you don't have to have the same userID defined on your production aix systems and your test aix systems. |
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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when you install the mq explorer in windows.. you can check the file 'amqmjpse.txt' that was being created. in this you can find the credentials such as 'registering user name' and 'Retrieving group memberships for current user'., to which access is given to run the eclipse based utility i.e. mq explorer.
In case of WBI Toolkit, you can run the different instances of it but make sure that you have different toolkit versions on your machine. e.g. you can run toolkit of versions 5, version 6, version 7 on same machine. BUT for the same version you are not given that permission by eclipse.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| pfarrel wrote: |
| ...I right-click on the icon, I can select run-as, and run the tool with a different userID.... |
And if you put a question on " WHY the RUN AS.. is given there then ? " then I would say.. for the executable utilities/files in windows, micorsoft gives that option on right click to run the same appl. using diff. user id. BUT Eclipse does not allow that when it comes to multiple instances of the same utility/appl. as mq explorer and WBI toolkit.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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NO.
For WebSphere MQ Explorer, you have to Preferences->WebSphere MQ Explorer -> and on that panel chose "run in an Eclipse workbench" rather than "run as a standalone application".
Then you can choose a different workspace.
This is regardless of whether you use Run As to execute the MQ explorer as different user or not.
For Toolkit, you can just change the workspace after you start, using the option under File menu. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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If you need multiple concurrent copies, try MO71
However I would run just one copy and setup the mcauserid on the channel...
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| PhilBlake |
| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| pfarrel wrote: |
| The problem this solves, is that you don't have to have the same userID defined on your production aix systems and your test aix systems. |
If you use MQ Explorer v7 (or MS0T), then you can specify a different userid on each client connection (4th page of the Add Remote Queue Manager wizard), which will override the default logged-in (or contact admin) userid ? |
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