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Luke
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:37 am    Post subject: Posting information from an IBM PMR Reply with quote

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Hi,

This may be a dumb question, but is it OK to post information provided by IBM in response to a PMR?

I posted a topic in the forum a while ago, and also raised a PMR requesting clarification from IBM. IBM have now come back with an explanation, that I'd like to post, as I think it will help anyone who has similar problems.

I don't think that the info is sensitive, it's just a clarification of how the Message Broker interacts with Oracle and the odbc driver. I'm just slightly wary of unwittingly breaking a confidentiality agreement.

Can anyone advise please?

Thanks

Luke
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely this a question you should ask of IBM?
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Luke
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Surely this a question you should ask of IBM?

Fair point, I suppose if I want a definitive positive answer on this then that's what I'll have to do.

Was hoping someone here might be able to offer some guidance though. I know for instance if I'd said I'd recently been on a beta workshop and asked whether I can post about the new features, plenty of people would be able to say - no, you signed a confidentiality agreement. Similarly for certification/sample questions, the forum has a pretty clear policy. Just wondered if there was a stated policy for information from PMRs (I did search the forum and couldn't find one).
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If nothing else, you could request that the PMR be made into a technote.
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Luke
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
If nothing else, you could request that the PMR be made into a technote.

Good idea, I'll update the PMR to request that. Thanks
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WMBDEV1
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Luke wrote:
mqjeff wrote:
If nothing else, you could request that the PMR be made into a technote.

Good idea, I'll update the PMR to request that. Thanks


And then provide a link to the technote? I'm intrigued now as to what you have been up to!
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Luke
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WMBDEV1 wrote:

And then provide a link to the technote?

Sure ... although I wouldn't hold your breath, given that I waited over 3 weeks for the initial response, and I've already asked 1 follow-up question.

WMBDEV1 wrote:

I'm intrigued now as to what you have been up to!

This week, I have mostly been ... banging my head against the desk and cursing Windows for its daft "Regional Settings" ... I only want to change the locale for Broker, how can it be this difficult?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Luke wrote:
This week, I have mostly been ...


Ha ha, long live the fast show
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Luke wrote:
This week, I have mostly been ... banging my head against the desk and cursing Windows for its daft "Regional Settings"


And Windoze claims another victim...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
Luke wrote:
This week, I have mostly been ... banging my head against the desk and cursing Windows for its daft "Regional Settings"


And Windoze claims another victim...


I love Windows...I think it's the bestest operating system in the whole wide world
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SAFraser
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We pay a lot of money so that I can open PMRs. I figure the knowledge that I gain belongs to my organization. Because I work for the government, most everything I do is a matter of public record and subject to Open Records legislation.

IBM may surely have a different view, of course.....
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gbaddeley
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PMRs can contain commercially sensitive information about customer's systems and internal details and vulnerabilities of IBM products. They are a private conversation and I very much doubt that IBM or the customer's legal people would allow any extracts to be published in an open forum!
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SAFraser
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have never posted sensitive information.

But I did post, for example, when an APAR was created to correct a disconnect issue with the stop channel command, such APAR having been created due to a PMR I submitted. And later, I posted when the fix became available in a fix pack.

How could spreading the word about an APAR and a fix be a bad thing for IBM?
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Luke
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gbaddeley wrote:
PMRs can contain commercially sensitive information about customer's systems and internal details and vulnerabilities of IBM products. They are a private conversation and I very much doubt that IBM or the customer's legal people would allow any extracts to be published in an open forum!

This is pretty much the conclusion I've come to. Although in this instance, I don't think there's anything sensitive involved, there could be, so I can't really post it.

Also agree with SAFraser on APARs and fixpacks, plenty of people share that type of information on the forum, and I don't think IBM would complain about that.

Thanks to all for your input.
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gbaddeley
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Luke wrote:
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Also agree with SAFraser on APARs and fixpacks, plenty of people share that type of information on the forum, and I don't think IBM would complain about that.

Thanks to all for your input.


Once an APAR has been created it becomes the formal report of the problem and information about it will generally be published on the IBM web site for all to share, but it won't refer to particular customers. Information about security and integrity vulnerabilities is published on the IBM X-force web site http://xforce.iss.net/
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