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| Monk |
 Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:17 am Post subject: Roger : Would your business be in trouble? |
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@Roger Lacroix
I was wondering , since you offer various MQ security products like MQ Authenticate User Security Exit.
What if IBM supplies this with say MQ v8 tomorrow.
Would your business be in trouble?
Although I hope you wont.
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| exerk |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Roger : Would your business be in trouble? |
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| Monk wrote: |
@Roger Lacroix
I was wondering , since you offer various MQ security products like MQ Authenticate User Security Exit.
What if IBM supplies this with say MQ v8 tomorrow.
Would your business be in trouble?
Although I hope you wont. |
This kind of question is really not suited to open discussion. If you want to discuss commercial-in-confidence topics, PM the relevant party!
...locking the thread...
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Roger : Would your business be in trouble? |
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| Monk wrote: |
| What if IBM supplies this with say MQ v8 tomorrow. |
They've been offering the Extended Security Edition (as here) for some time.
| Monk wrote: |
| Would your business be in trouble? |
Why? Are you looking to buy shares?
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| exerk |
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Unlocking the thread at Roger's request.
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Unlocking the thread at Roger's request. |
I'm not a big fan of companies that require employees to wear a muzzle.  I don't have a problem discussing Capitalware, its products or how I see the future. 
| Monk wrote: |
I was wondering , since you offer various MQ security products like MQ Authenticate User Security Exit.
What if IBM supplies this with say MQ v8 tomorrow. |
As Vitor pointed out, IBM sells a product called WebSphere MQ Extended Security Edition (WMQ ESE). It is a direct competitor of MQ Authenticate User Security Exit (MQAUSX). Actually, every few months, I'm filling out RFP paper-work for another customer's POC. MQAUSX wins some, and it loses some but overall, Capitalware is gaining MQAUSX (and z/MQAUSX) customers. There are now even job posting where MQAUSX experience is required (so cool!!).
There are 2 questions that I think about:
1) Would IBM rebrand WMQ ESE as simply WMQ. I seriously doubt it because WMQ ESE is far, far more expensive than just WMQ. First off the IBM sales people would be mad (loss of commission) and secondly, the customers would be mad because they would have spent a lot of more for something they could have gotten for free.
2) Would IBM create a "lite" version of WMQ ESE and include it in WMQ. This could happen but I think IBM would challenged to determine what features to include but not to affect WMQ ESE. If this did happen, I would go down the "value-added" road. What I mean is, more and more features. Most of the features I have added to MQAUSX have come from customer requests. I think, customers really appreciate this.
Currently, IBM is pushing SSL as the standard "free" security option, so I really don't think there will ever be a "lite" version of WMQ ESE in WMQ.
Of course, a 3rd option is for IBM to buy Capitalware and then simply include MQAUSX for free in WMQ.   (I'm joking!!)
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| Why? Are you looking to buy shares? |
No. Capitalware is not planning any share sales. Of course, if someone were to come with buckets and buckets of cash, how could I refuse. Seriously, I REALLY like being my own boss. I work on whatever I feel like. If I want to spent a week thinking about how I'm going to implement some code, then that is what I do. I don't have some crazy boss or VP of sales banging the table saying "when is product going to be ready". 
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| Would your business be in trouble? |
Capitalware currently sells 10 commercial products and has 7 open source projects. Our top 2 products are MQAUSX and MQ Visual Edit. So, if there was a "lite" version of WMQ ESE, then yes, this would impact sales of MQAUSX. Again, I would go down the value-added road for MQAUSX. Also, the open source project MQ File Mover is doing very well. Its averaging roughly 100 downloads per month. Since the revamped v3 has only been out for a few months, once companies do their POCs, I think next year could be interesting for MQ File Mover (developing and selling software is like gardening, you plant the seeds, water and weed the garden, then sometime in the future, you get results).
On paper (right in front of me), I have 2 "future" products already designed and architected but I simply don't have the time to create them. Plus I problably have another 5 products bouncing around inside my head.
Finally, IBM and Capitalware have an interesting (odd) relationship. Capitalware is an "Advanced-Level" Business Partner with IBM. IBM and Capitalware have several products that directly compete with each other and IBM is a very large customer of Capitalware. So, we both benefit from having the "other" guy around. 
So, don't worry, I'm 99.9999% sure that Capitalware will be around for a long time.
Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
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| WMBDEV1 |
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| RogerLacroix wrote: |
| If I want to spent a week thinking about how I'm going to implement come code, then that is what I do. |
Oh man, how that made me laugh 
Immature me? Maybe. |
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| RogerLacroix |
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| WMBDEV1 wrote: |
| Immature me? Maybe. |
There is no maybe.
Not for either of us.
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| exerk |
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| RogerLacroix wrote: |
| ...I'm not a big fan of companies that require employees to wear a muzzle... |
Nor I...
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I found the original post rather juvenile. I would have asked mr. monk what he thought would be the outcome to 3rd-party providers from a new release. And, what he would suggest to such a provider if he had skin in the game.
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Roger : Would your business be in trouble? |
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Hi,
| Monk wrote: |
| What if IBM supplies this with say MQ v8 tomorrow. |
I never commented on your "tomorrow" comment.
That's not how IBM works.
i.e.
- MQSeries v5.3 was released in April 2002.
- WebSphere MQ v6.0 was released in April 2005.
- WebSphere MQ v7.0 was released in April 2008.
So, can you guess when WMQ v8 will be released? I have a hundred bucks it will be April 2011. That's almost 2 years away (from today - Sept 2009). Hence, tomorrow will come but it will be a bit.
Now on an interesting side note, I wonder what big things IBM is planning for WMQ v9. All things being equal, WMQ v9 will be released April 2014. This will also be WMQ's 20th anniversary. You are supposed to give china when a couple has been married for 20 years. Maybe IBM will nickname the release "china". Maybe IBM will give each MQAdmin a china serving dish.
Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
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| bbburson |
| Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Roger : Would your business be in trouble? |
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| RogerLacroix wrote: |
Maybe IBM will give each MQAdmin a china serving dish.
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I hope it's dark blue to match the MQSeries.net coffee mug! |
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| hopsala |
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| RogerLacroix wrote: |
| Would IBM create a "lite" version of WMQ ESE and include it in WMQ... Most of the features I have added to MQAUSX have come from customer requests. I think, customers really appreciate this. |
If I may chime in with my 5 cents, and add a bit of content to a wayward discussion..
IBM products, with few exceptions, are:
1. Big and cumbersome
2. Generalized
3. Expensive
Roger offers products that are:
1. Simple and lightweight
2. Specifically tailored to customer needs and a particular problem
3. Relatively cheap
As such, I think (and hope!) that he and other such companies will always have a place in the market. IBM is a pretty good company to write extensions for - there are a lot of 'hooks' to hang your product on, such as exits, OAM calls, etc etc.
I remember Roger posting here back in 2001 (I had a different user then), long before numerous changes were made to WMQ, including some that should have allegedly put him out of business, such as native SSL support. He's still here, so I guess that's pretty good POC for ya
P.S Here's my bet for WMQ V9 nickname: "WAS". Hint hint, nudge nudge.. |
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