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| nonstopmark |
 Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: Is it possible to clone an MQ Queue? |
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Is it possible to clone an MQ Queue? That is, can messages that appear on one MQ queue also be duplicated onto another queue which could then relay those messages somewhere else just by way of MQ configuration/administration set-up, e.g. a datawarehouse on Windows. If the message were a payment say, one queue would send to the next allocated payments platform on say, a z/OS IBM. The cloned queue (which contains exactly the same messages) would take the same duplicate payment and send it to a data warehouse or monitoring application. Thanks in advance for any help or input here.
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| There is a sample exit provided by IBM that may help you achieve this. Cant remember exact details but it may help you. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:05 am Post subject: |
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This should not be done using a message exit. This should be done using the functions of an ESB like routing. There is no problem routing the same message to multiple destinations. 
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| This should be done using the functions of an ESB like routing. |
Assuming you have an ESB and that these messages pass through it!
I dont know that I agree that it should not be done with an exit, it is one possible way of doing it!
Although looking again at the post, it has lost of junk in the footer. Might be worth locking this thread! |
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| nonstopmark |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: Cloning? |
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Just a minute. That's no way to respond. This is a perfectly valid question and not SPAM???!!! Can anybody give me an answer that is full and insightful. I have posted this question on a number of other MQ forums. Lets see who comes up with the best response and I will post it here for enlightenment... don't just light a fire under my chair because another poster disagrees with you..... I am looking for a solution to this......
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Is it possible to clone an MQ Queue? |
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| nonstopmark wrote: |
| Is it possible to clone an MQ Queue? That is, can messages that appear on one MQ queue also be duplicated onto another queue which could then relay those messages somewhere else just by way of MQ configuration/administration set-up, e.g. a datawarehouse on Windows. If the message were a payment say, one queue would send to the next allocated payments platform on say, a z/OS IBM. The cloned queue (which contains exactly the same messages) would take the same duplicate payment and send it to a data warehouse or monitoring application. Thanks in advance for any help or input here. |
The function that is approached here is financial ergo pub/sub won't do because of confidentiality. But the function requested fits nicely into audit scenarios etc... The exact reason why you would want this to be handled on the ESB. You don't need to change any of the processing functions but with the correct BEPL you can route it to the data warehouse, to the approval workflow, etc...
What I am trying to say is that 'nonstopmark' is asking the wrong question and with his background he really should know better!  
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| exerk |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Look at V7.0 and the capability it has in regard to setting up queues as publishers/subscribers, or look into the methods as suggested by others.
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| nonstopmark |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: Cloning |
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I am somewhat intrigued by the fact that you know my background better than I do.... this forum really is quite amusing I must say? Maybe you should know better than second guess a situation from such a remote location.
I have already received a more comprehensive answer on another MQ forum thread while you guys just insult thread posters... what a place to hang out this is.... ?!
I was going to post the actual answer but this place is for time wasters.... please feel free to lock this thread.... and my profile.... I've got monitoring products to sell....... and with my background and record, that's never been a problem.....
Sorry to have wasted your time guys........
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Allow me to try and pour a little oil on the waters here...
Firstly, the large number of links in your tag line may have suggested to some that you were a possible spammer - it's one of their favourite tricks to get click-through's -and that's enough to put most people immediately on guard.
Secondly, if you are a commercial interest, and the information gleaned from the links, and the level of knowledge displayed there, has a mismatch with the question asked, i.e. link=we know the answer to world hunger and question=someone give me the answer to world hunger, again that may put people on the defensive.
There are an awful lot of '...do my work for me, do the needful...' questions (feel the parentheses) asked here, and that does tend to make people a bit wary when genuine questions are couched in nearly the same manner.
For the edification of the members, and their education, we would still appreciate you sharing the answer.
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(Uh, oh. Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...)
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Cloning? |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I seem to recall that quite a while ago someone spammed with a url for male-enhancement meds. Nobody complained about that! 
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| And I was taking it seriously. My first two lines were actually questions to fjb to try and generate more discussion. |
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| nonstopmark |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: The answers so far (abridged)... |
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:36 am Post subject: Re: The answers so far (abridged)... |
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| nonstopmark wrote: |
Use the mirrorq API exit (not available on z/OS)
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FWIW, this was the sample app I suggested in my first response to you 
Glad to see you're back with us. |
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