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| jbanoop |
 Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:17 am Post subject: using WMB for developing a custom EDI solution |
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All,
I had a general question on the suitability of WMB and related products of the WBI suite to implement a custom EDI solution to act as the EDI sub system.
It would be great if you all could share your thoughts and experiences on this.
I would also love to hear of any cosiderations or limitations that you may have run into during similar exercises.
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| elvis_gn |
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: Re: using WMB for developing a custom EDI solution |
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Padawan
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Hi jbanoop,
| jbanoop wrote: |
I had a general question on the suitability of WMB and related products of the WBI suite to implement a custom EDI solution to act as the EDI sub system.
It would be great if you all could share your thoughts and experiences on this. |
What exactly do you mean by custom EDI ? For any and all EDI you should be looking at WebSphere Partner Gateway.
You could achieve it using WMB too, but not my recommendation....use WMB if there is other integration requirements.
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| Mercator |
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: Re: using WMB for developing a custom EDI solution |
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| elvis_gn wrote: |
| For any and all EDI you should be looking at WebSphere Partner Gateway. |
Thats a very general statement. WPG may make sense if they need trading partner management and basic X12 validation / acknowledgements. What if they only need transformation and routing? What if its HIPAA X12 EDI data? What if they are XML based EDI transactions?
In addition to WMB / WTX, Trading Manager, WTX HIPAA Pack (Compliance Check application), or Datapower XB60 could very well fit the bill in certain cases. Too many times we force-fit a problem in to a solution. |
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| jbanoop |
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Chevalier
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Elvis_gn, Mercator : thanks for the replies.
I guess I was not specific enough. By custom EDI solution, I meant the use of WMB (combined with products from the WBI suite) in the implementation of an EDI subsytem (basically an open system implementation of the EDI system as opposed to say maybe a Gentran based system to handle EDI).
I understand the role of WPG in B2B interfacing and communication based on protocols like AS2 with the trading partner.
My question was more directed at the design of a system that would be the EDI system itself, responsible for handling all job functions of say a Gentran based EDI system.
I know I am being vague but I guess its a general question on the suitability of the websphere stack in such an implementation and if suitable what would be the products that would fit the bill and design and architectural issues/limitations that such a system could have Vs a conventional EDI system. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Can message broker be made to act as an EDI subsystem? Probably.... Would you want it to? Certainly not. There is a reason there are specific EDI programs on the market that fill that niche. They are probably more accurate, faster, and have better EDI support... Just because you happen to have a hammer in your hand is no reason to have everything look like a nail. 
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| elvis_gn |
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: using WMB for developing a custom EDI solution |
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Padawan
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Hi all,
| Mercator wrote: |
| elvis_gn wrote: |
| For any and all EDI you should be looking at WebSphere Partner Gateway. |
Thats a very general statement. WPG may make sense if they need trading partner management and basic X12 validation / acknowledgements. What if they only need transformation and routing? What if its HIPAA X12 EDI data? What if they are XML based EDI transactions? |
Hmm...yes, I should have been more clear on my reasons to proposing WPG. I noted the "EDI sub system", which is what made me feel that jbanoop was looking for a trading hub.
If EDI is only a part of the integration then perhaps any WebSphere ESB offering with WTX (if necessary) would be enough to get EDI to work...having said that, I think these are just ways to keep the BoM lower and are not the best solutions.
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have implemented a solution using WMQ, WBI & WPG as a trading hub where ONE of the protocols used was AS2. We also had shop-floor/depot systems connecting via MQe and several other 'Legacy' systems to integrate that made the choice of Broker very easy.
The biggest issue was getting one of the main solution providers to support WMQ as a data transfer mechanism!
IMHO, if the only thing that needs transformation is AS2 then using WBI could well be a bit of an overkill and other solutions may be more appropriate.
Just asking if WBI supports EDI is really the wrong question.
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