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| wilsonjohn24 |
 Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: Move Files accross MQ Backbone |
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Hi,
Have a business requirement to move user attachments from system to system using "MQ".
Heared that IBM have a product called MQSeriesFTA which sits accross MQ Series ( Has anyone got any views on this or good links to some technical information ? ).
Also is this the same product as Tivoli Data Mover?
Anyone solved this problem before and has any important lessons learned?
Apologies for the somewhat vague questions - just at stage one of researching on this 
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| exerk |
| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Move Files accross MQ Backbone |
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| wilsonjohn24 wrote: |
| Heared that IBM have a product called MQSeriesFTA which sits accross MQ Series ( Has anyone got any views on this or good links to some technical information ? ). |
AFAIK (and I'm rather uncertain here) this is the file mover that comes with the base product. I'm even more uncertain if this is intended for production use.
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| Also is this the same product as Tivoli Data Mover? |
IIRC (and still uncertain - only one cup of coffee so far!) this is what the Commercequest / Metastorm product PM4Data was called when IBM sold it. Now that's a production strength file-over-WMQ product!
(This is no way consistutes an endorsement, no warrenty express or implied is given, other file-over-WMQ products are available, etc, etc)
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| Vitor |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Try HERE for the InfoCentre... |
Now the description of this sounds very PM4Data-ish.... 
But this is a separate product isn't it? There is a data mover thing bundled with the base product? Or have they been cleaning the coffee machine with unusual chemicals again? 
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| exerk wrote: |
| Try HERE for the InfoCentre... |
Now the description of this sounds very PM4Data-ish....
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WMQ FTE is NOT PM4Data, it's a new product developed by IBM.
| Vitor wrote: |
But this is a separate product isn't it? There is a data mover thing bundled with the base product? Or have they been cleaning the coffee machine with unusual chemicals again? |
It's not part of the base product and needs to be bought seperately as an add-on to WebSphere MQ
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: |
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IBM now market WMQ FTE (File Transfer Edition) which is meant for production use and moves data over MQ.
It costs around 50% of a WMQ license and needs at least one WMQ V7 queue manager. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| Michael Dag wrote: |
WMQ FTE is NOT PM4Data, it's a new product developed by IBM.
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A little more searching, and a little more coffee, indicates that PM4Data is now marketed by Metastorm as MIM. 
But I fear we're moving off topic a little here. Are we certain that WMQ-FTE is the FTA product mentioned by the original poster? Anyone?
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| exerk |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: |
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I think WMQ FTE is the 'productionised' lift of the mickey-mouse FTA bundled in WMQ V6.0, however, all those dungeon-cleaning materials fumes I've been breathing in lately may have me talking small spherical things again...
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| Vitor |
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| exerk wrote: |
| all those dungeon-cleaning materials fumes I've been breathing in lately may have me talking small spherical things again... |
Yes, must get more ventilation. The lab smells terrible. I hope that's just cleaning fumes.....
Best bet will be for a passing IBMer to take pity and provide definitive information.
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| wilsonjohn24 |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies - it has somewhat cleared it up, in the sense that it is a complex mesh of products and product renames et al.
Maybe IBM product marketing can take up the shampoo advert slogan "Take two bottles of Shampoo to the shower, not me I just wash and go". One product for one problem....... Will the real file transfer solution please stand up...
Time for a call to our IBM sales rep to fill in the gaps and sell us some more data power licences.
Will slowly digest the info on the replies - thanks to all. |
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| JosephGramig |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Clarity from a sales rep!
| wilsonjohn24 wrote: |
Have a business requirement to move user attachments from system to system using "MQ".
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Really, what are they attached to? What does this mean?
Surely, they are not attached to the system. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
| I think WMQ FTE is the 'productionised' lift of the mickey-mouse FTA bundled in WMQ V6.0, |
No.
It's an entirely new product. |
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
And for an open source application (free) that moves files using MQ, have a look at MQ File Mover
We are in the final stages of beta testing v3. Version 3 introduces a "Workflow Framework" to MQ File Mover.
My postings in the general forum at mqseries.nethere have been deleted (sad but true) but drop me an email at "support AT capitalware dot biz" and I'll give you download details.
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| PeteVerdon |
| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Passing IBMer here
I've only just seen this thread; I usually just keep an eye on the FTE-specific forum at http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=36 . I hope this answer is still relevant to people.
IBM Websphere MQ File Transfer Edition, aka WMQFTE, aka FTE, is a new product, not yet another renaming of something else. It possibly fills the same niche as PM4Data, but it is not based on it and nobody who worked with PM4Data is on the FTE team. It's also not based on the "Mickey Mouse" File Transfer Application sample that shipped with MQ in the past; it is all new code developed from scratch by a newly-formed team in the Hursley Lab. Some of us are ex-MQ people and some come from other areas of the Lab.
FTE can run over a mostly MQv6 network, but as zpat said it does require one MQv7 queue manager to provide publish/subscribe function used to handle log messages. On platforms other than zOS this v7 queue manager is included in the licensing (but don't ask me for more details on the pricing structure as I am a developer rather than a salesman ).
Any other questions are best posted on the FTE forum linked above, as there are a lot more FTE eyeballs over there.
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| exerk |
| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: |
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PeteVerdon,
Thank you for the input...and my 'Mickey Mouse' comment was purely tongue-in-cheek - honest!
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