| Are you/Do you plan to use integrated PUB/SUB |
| We'll never ever use PUB/SUB |
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12% |
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| We're using a Broker and intend to continue using it |
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25% |
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| We intend to replace our broker (JMS only) |
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0% |
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| We intend to replace our broker (also for legacy apps) |
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25% |
[ 2 ] |
| New to PUB/SUB; looking at MQ7 for it (JMS only) |
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25% |
[ 2 ] |
| New to PUB/SUB; looking at MQ7 for it (also for legacy apps) |
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12% |
[ 1 ] |
| Other PUB/SUB plans (pls clarify in a reply) |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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| falconX |
 Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: Poll: plans to use MQ 7 integrated PUB/SUB |
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Hi, just curious if the integrated publish/subscribe feature in MQ7 is gaining acceptance...
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Whether the MQ v7 pub/sub stuff is "gaining acceptance" or not should have nothing to do with whether you use it or not.
If you are using Pub/Sub *at all*, and you are using MQ, you should be at least in the planning stages of moving to MQ v7 Pub/Sub, because you should be in at least the planning stages of moving to MQ v7 in general.
If you are not using Pub/Sub, but only considering it, then a) it shouldn't matter what version of MQ you are using, b) you should be targeting v7 Pub/Sub anyway. Make your decision on using Pub/Sub or not based on your requirements, not based on the technology that implements the pub/sub engine.
Thirdly, the MQ v7 Pub/Sub engine is a) significantly easier to use than the v6 MQ pub/sub engine, b) the only choice you'll have moving forward past MQ v6 at all, c) under active development such that you can better ensure that it will meet all of your requirements. |
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| sebastianhirt |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Well, as a consultant I have seen quiet some shops, and as a teacher in MQ and Message Broker I have met many people from many different companies.
What I keep asking myself is, why so many shops do not even consider Pub/Sub at all.
I mean in the J2EE world this is one of the most natural things to do, while in the MQ and Message Broker world it is not even considered on many places where it would simply be the better design.
So IMO the question really should be "Why is the acceptance of Pub/Sub considerably low?"
Oh, and by the way, I like the new Implementation of Pub/Sub in MQ7. IMO it is just so much more of a real solution. |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| sebastianhirt wrote: |
| ...So IMO the question really should be "Why is the acceptance of Pub/Sub considerably low?"... |
Probably because of:
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The full text can be found HERE. Also I think it is because I have found it rare (well, non-existent so far) for a site to do a top-down review of a new release of the middleware used, and therefore just perpetuate their code.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: |
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We are looking at broker pub/sub, but I would prefer to use MQ V7 pub/sub.
We don't have MQ V7 deployed yet, hopefully by the time we do there will be a migration tool from broker pub/sub. |
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| rxm8778 |
| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Anyone knows if IBM is planning on keeping Pub Sub on both MQ and Broker? or are they moving into making MQ a pure routing mechanism
and Broker a transform only mechanism
.....thus eliminating Pub Sub from Broker completly down the road?
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Someone knows the answer to this question, yes.
They may or may not be able to tell you, though.
Ask your IBM Sales Rep. |
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