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jonesn
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Do many developers actually use broker 6.1 toolkit on Linux? Reply with quote

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Joined: 09 Jan 2002
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Chaps,

I am comfortable running a development environment (Broker, Config Manager & Toolkit) on a single windows machine but with broker V6 & the addition of Linux support for all the components I have been building a linux equivalent.

I have managed to build the following...

    Fedora 9
    MQ 6.0.2.5
    DB2 9.1.6a
    MQSI 6.1.0.3


I am able to create, deploy & run message flows as I am used to doing on Windows. However my Linux development environment is not a reliable as running the same software on XP and the toolkit hangs regularly and needs to be forcably brought down then restarted. The configuration manager and broker seem to run OK, it's just the toolkit causing problems.

I would be interested to know if other developers are using a similar setup & if they are seeing similar issues.

Thanks
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Do many developers actually use broker 6.1 toolkit on Li Reply with quote

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jonesn wrote:
However my Linux development environment is not a reliable as running the same software on XP and the toolkit hangs regularly and needs to be forcably brought down then restarted. The configuration manager and broker seem to run OK, it's just the toolkit causing problems.

Could be related to using a flavor of Linux not supported by WMB.
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smdavies99
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Do many developers actually use broker 6.1 toolkit on Li Reply with quote

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jonesn wrote:
Chaps,

    Fedora 9
    MQ 6.0.2.5
    DB2 9.1.6a
    MQSI 6.1.0.3




As someone who uses Linux more than 50% of the time AND uses it for WMB Development AND is pretty active in the Linux Community I can say the WMB environment on Linux has come on in leaps & bounds with its Installability & Useability.

I think your problems lie at the heart of your system. Fedora is not something I would do WMB development on. I do 'test' installs on it but for serious work? Forget it.
The Fedora project is aimed at leading edge technology development which is exactly the opposite of what you need for WMB which is aimed at stable production enviroments.
I would recommend that you think seriously about replacing Fedora with Centos. Centos 5.2 (5.3 is due soon) is built from the same source code as RHEL so you are in a much more stable environment right from the start.
For my serious work, I use Centos 5.2 with non standard stuff like the Nvidia drivers from rpmforge.

Finally, with the Fedora 6 month release cycle, Fedora 9 will go unsupported in about 10 weeks when Fedora 11 is released.
Despite what I have said about Fedora there are people who do use it for production use even though it is not recommended. Generally it is pretty stable but you are on your own when it comes to getting any support from IBM
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mqpaul
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Life on the bleeding edge... Reply with quote

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Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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I use WMBT and broker and DB2 and MQ 6 and MQ 7 under Linux, and I've had no stability problems. I use Gentoo Linux, which is way, way off the supported list! (The hardest part was getting MQ to work; Gentoo doesn't use RPMs.)

My experience of a more mainstream Linux (a heavily-tailored version of Red Hat, and somewhat old) was that this too was stable, but sluggish, and the networking tools tended to get in the way - this is all on a laptop, and I have to use different network configurations in different locations.

You say Broker 6. That might be the problem; I'm using 6.1, and therefore the 6.1 toolkit. I don't know which Eclipse version the 6.0 toolkit uses, but it might be an earlier release. Eclipse has improved steadily over the releases.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WMBT 6.0 runs on Eclipse 3.0.x.

It is noticably slower in most respects than WMBT 6.1 on several platforms, especially during startup.
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