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smeunier
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Database crash, broker needs to be recycled?!?!? Reply with quote

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We have had a situation in the past where our database crashed & had to be restarted. Because of this we had to recycle our broker so that the flows could re-connect to the database. Is there a way to re-connect the flows to a database without having to recycle the broker?

It appears the broker by proxy makes the connection rather than the flow itself.
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smeunier
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just to clarify, when I say database, this is not the Broker Db, but a user Db that crashed. The broker needed to be restarted to regain access.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just to clarify, the behavior here is radically different between different versions of Message Broker.
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WMBEAI
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the database is not Broker DB and it is Application Database then instead of reloading the broker i think an mqsisetdbparms should do the taks of the broker identifying the database and doing the connection part of it
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WMBEAI wrote:
i think an mqsisetdbparms should do the taks of the broker identifying the database and doing the connection part of it


Depends on which version of broker is in use (as my most worthy associate mentioned).
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smeunier
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is V6 broker with latest Fix pacs. I'll investigate mqsisetdbparms, but what I'm hearing is that connectivity to an application DB should not require Broker to be recycled.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Remember that "the broker" is composed of more than one running process, and that none of these running processes are "the flow".


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A v6.0 broker should not require a full restart to re-establish connections to a User database.

But, the flows may have to retry enough times to identify all of the active connections in the connection pool as needing to be reconnected. And it may be simpler, given that you know there is a database issue, to mqsireload or mqsistop/mqsistart.
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