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| dotaneli |
 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:51 am Post subject: Export and Import execution groups |
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Hi all. A client of mine wants to copy his WBI Env. to a new machine.
The new machine is all set up, including a running broker.
It is not the exact instance, as we created a new one.
Now - we wish to export all of the flows from the currently production broker to the newly created one.
Any way of doing that?
If not - does exporting and importing the DB helps?
10x alot! |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Export and Import execution groups |
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| dotaneli wrote: |
| Any way of doing that? |
Take the bar files deployed to the old broker and deploy them to the new broker.
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| broker_new |
| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yatiri
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How do we do that if we do not have the bar files.
Is there a way to backup the bar file from the Broker or Broker db...... 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| broker_new wrote: |
| How do we do that if we do not have the bar files. |
What, you've not kept them as part of the audit & source control?? 
Then recreate them from the Config Mgr.
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Is there a way to backup the bar file from the Broker or Broker db...... |
I don't believe you can extract the bar files from the broker.
I'll leave it to better minds than mine to discuss what you'll need to kudge if you just unload the old db into the new db, which has a different uuid and so forth.
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| broker_new |
| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I do have it,as Life is a series of problems trying to find out is there a way to recover those.
Probably not but read somewhere in the forum that its a requirement for newer version.. 
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Then recreate them from the Config Mgr. |
What?
There are documented method for backing up and restoring a Broker.
There is no method other than deployment to add message broker development artifacts to the runtime.
If you do not keep BAR files in under change management, then you should at least have kept the source that gets built into BAR files under change management. So build a new bar file and deploy that.
If you do not have source files for running flows, then there is nothing you can do to recover it. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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There are documented method for backing up and restoring a Broker.
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My point was I didn't know if that allowed the back up to be restored to a different, built from new, broker rather than the broker the backup was taken from.
I've always built a new broker and redeployed the bar files. Seemed easier & cleaner.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| mqjeff wrote: |
There are documented method for backing up and restoring a Broker.
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My point was I didn't know if that allowed the back up to be restored to a different, built from new, broker rather than the broker the backup was taken from. |
You can back up a broker and restore it to another machine using the documented methods. Part of that restoration is creating a "new" broker.
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| I've always built a new broker and redeployed the bar files. Seemed easier & cleaner. |
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| sridhsri |
| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Could you export the data from the old Broker db into a new a new Broker with new Broker db and restart that broker ?
I think it should start all the EGs and msg flows. |
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| dotaneli |
| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Hey everyone and thanks alot for your help.
First - know that it is not ME who doesnt keep his sources, it is my client..
Second -
We did some tests. We were able to restore a broker on the same machine. Meaning: create, deploy, delete, recreate, merge old db into new db, and start the broker, including the message flows (that been done with copying the c:\documents and settings\All Users\Applicaition Data\MQSI" dir, and the registry values relevant for the broker ("HKLM\SOFTWARE\IBM\WebSpereMQIntegrator\2\BrokerName").
That also includes the UUID of the broker so the new broker can be set as with the ID of the old one.
When we tried to do that in a new machine (using the same user and password, becuase the db scheme is built accroding to the user's name), it didn't work.
The broker IS running, but mqsilist shows now E.G.'s...
We noticed that under c:\documents and settings\All Users\Applicaition Data\MQSI\components\Broker\<EG folders>, all the E.G.'s are instantly deleted once i try to start the broker. I cannot figure out why..
anyone? help...?
P.S. - Really? Config Mgr always saves deployed bars??????????????
How do i get them?? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| dotaneli wrote: |
| First - know that it is not ME who doesnt keep his sources, it is my client.. |
As he sows, so shall he reap. 
| dotaneli wrote: |
P.S. - Really? Config Mgr always saves deployed bars??????????????
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Does it? News to me!
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| mqjeff |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| dotaneli wrote: |
P.S. - Really? Config Mgr always saves deployed bars??????????????
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Does it? News to me! |
No.
It does *not*.
That's why I said
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Then recreate them from the Config Mgr. |
What? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:16 am Post subject: |
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For the record, when I said "recreate them from the Config Mgr", I meant build new bar files and deploy those.
This of course assumes the source code is available. A possibly unwarrented assumption on my part.
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