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masteringmq
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: NPMSPEED Reply with quote

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I realize that messages are building up in my transmission queue but discovered that there is no processing problem. Therefore this leads to a an explanation that the channel is not processing the messages fast enough. Therefore I set the NPMSPEED attribute of the channel to FAST. This applies only for non persistant messages. Are there possibilities to deliver persistant messages quickly?.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Read up on the performance considerations for MQ on the RSS feed http://hursleyonwmq.wordpress.com/feed/
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/rss/rssmessages.jspa?forumID=280 and
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/rss/messaging

There are a few options you can use mostly related to disk io.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: NPMSPEED Reply with quote

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masteringmq wrote:
Therefore this leads to a an explanation that the channel is not processing the messages fast enough. Therefore I set the NPMSPEED attribute of the channel to FAST.


NPMSPEED has nothing to do with how fast a channel moves a message. If the messages are not moving fast enough from QM1 to QM2, either the channel processes do not have enough CPU or memory, or more likely, your network bandwidth is to small for what you want to see.

NPMSPEED only deals with how non persistent messages are dealt with in regards to channel batches. Depending on your settings, that may appear to make the messages move faster, when in fact its only making them available that much faster on the receiving QM.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NPMSPEED(FAST) means that the sending MCA will send non-persistent messages ahead of all other (persistent) messages, AND outside units of work.

If a non-persistent message is sent on a FAST channel, AND the receiving MCA cannot deliver the message to the destination queue and the dead-letter queue, you have directed the receiving MCA to discard the message.

Did you read the definition of NPMSPEED(FAST) in the WMQ Intercommunications manual before you made this change?

Can your applications tolerate this potential loss of messages?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes. Also if the channel terminates while the fast, non persistant message are in transit, the messages may be lost. Unless if my application can perform recovery.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
NPMSPEED(FAST) means that the sending MCA will send non-persistent messages ahead of all other (persistent) messages, AND outside units of work.


It is my understanding that the messages are sent over in the same order that they are in the XMITQ. Its just that the non persistent ones are sent over a fast channel are sent outside of syncpoint, meaning they are available immediatly.

I searched and searched and was not able to find any doc confirming or contradicting this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
It is my understanding that the messages are sent over in the same order that they are in the XMITQ.


So do I, but with NPMSPEED(FAST) we had swapped non-persistent messages, we went back to NPMSPEED(NORMAL).
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