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grimface
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: Queue Manager Level Reply with quote

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Hello Masters,
I don't actually consider myself as a new bee, since i've been an admin for quite some time now.

But it looks like i must have been missing some very basic information/education, such as....what a level 2 queue manager is.

Can someone please tell me what exactly is a level 2 queue manager? I looked through the info centers and some red books but there is no information whatsoever on the levels of a queue manager.
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AkankshA
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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may be the queue manager which is being connected using an intermediate qm in between..

its my sheer guess though.. as never heard of the term level 2 qm...
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grimface
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well it's mentioned here:
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=course_description&courseCode=MQT10

So there must be a formal defintion for it.....
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: Queue Manager Level Reply with quote

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grimface wrote:
I don't actually consider myself as a new bee, since i've been an admin for quite some time now.


Don't let the titles throw you - there are "newbies" in here who wrote parts of the product!

grimface wrote:
Can someone please tell me what exactly is a level 2 queue manager?


Can you tell us in what context you've seen this phrase?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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grimface wrote:
well it's mentioned here:
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=course_description&courseCode=MQT10


Ok, so there then...

grimface wrote:
So there must be a formal defintion for it.....


There must. With luck a passing IBMer will tell us what it is!
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grimface
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Queue Manager Level Reply with quote

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grimface wrote:
Can you tell us in what context you've seen this phrase?

I was browsing through the mq admin course for windows when i met this term. URL here:
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=course_description&courseCode=MQT10

Since there is a level 2, there must be level 1(and probably level 3)? Can someone please enlighten me?
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exerk
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Google found this on a search for "MQSeries Level 2":

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Most of these publications, which are sometimes referred to as the MQSeries "family" books, apply to all MQSeries Level 2 products. The latest MQSeries Level 2 products are:

MQSeries for AIX V5.1
MQSeries for AS/400 V4R2M1
MQSeries for AT&T GIS UNIX V2.2
MQSeries for Digital OpenVMS V2.2
MQSeries for HP-UX V5.1
MQSeries for OS/2 Warp V5.1
MQSeries for OS/390 V2.1
MQSeries for SINIX and DC/OSx V2.2
MQSeries for Sun Solaris V5.1
MQSeries for Tandem NonStop Kernel V2.2
MQSeries for VSE/ESA V2.1
MQSeries for Windows V2.0
MQSeries for Windows V2.1
MQSeries for Windows NT V5.1


It looks a bit dated though!

Google also found this:

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This is an intermediate course for technical individuals who require the skills to be an administrator for any of the WebSphere MQ and MQSeries Level 2 ...


So I would suspect that 'Level 2' refers to pre-version 5.3?

Any passing IBMers able to help?
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Right, so we contrast "MQSeries" with "WebSphere MQ".

And we presume that this description was actually written around the time of WebSphere MQ v5.0, when MQSeries 2.x was still supported and available.

So we have "This is an intermediate course for technical individuals who administer any of the WebSphere MQ and MQSeries Level 2"

The associativity of "Level 2" should be with "MQSeries" and not with "queue manager". Note that the additional caveat "except WebSphere MQ for z/OS," is specifically there to cover the fact that version 5 of MQ for zOS came out a bit later than it did for distributed, and that one could achieve many features of MQ v5 (100Mb message limit for example) on zOS by implementing individual PTFs that did not change the MQ version number. (this is still true of zOS)

At least this is my reading.

Yes, it's an outdated description.
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grimface
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:

The associativity of "Level 2" should be with "MQSeries" and not with "queue manager". Note that the additional caveat "except WebSphere MQ for z/OS," is specifically there to cover the fact that version 5 of MQ for zOS came out a bit later than it did for distributed, and that one could achieve many features of MQ v5 (100Mb message limit for example) on zOS by implementing individual PTFs that did not change the MQ version number. (this is still true of zOS)


This makes sense. I agree with how you understand it

mqjeff wrote:
Yes, it's an outdated description.


Agree
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markt
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing to do with version numbers.

The "level 1" qmgrs were the SSI/EzBridge products. The "level 2" qmgrs were the IBM-developed products.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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markt wrote:
The "level 1" qmgrs were the SSI/EzBridge products. The "level 2" qmgrs were the IBM-developed products.


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