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Blomman
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reason 2218 Reply with quote

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Hi!

I have an message >4mb that keeps ending upp on dead.letter.queue with reason 2218(MQRC_MSG_TOO_BIG_FOR_CHANNEL, 2218).

But his is some kind of magic for me due to all objects has MAMSGLEN(104857600) ~104mb.

Objects are:
Sending and reciving QMGR
Sender and receiver channel
XMITQ
QL on recieving QMGR

(Ok im not running on the latest software, current MQ 5.3, CSD 11)

Have i missed something? Any suggestions?

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exerk
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you in control of the SDR? The RCVR? Or both? Any channel exits?

Anything in the error logs for sending and receiving queue managers?

What is the size of the message being rejected?
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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104857600 = 100 * 1024 * 1024

it is exactly 100 MB

You must increase the MAXMSGL attribute on the SDR chl, RCVR chl, target Q and target QMGR to 100 MB - default is 4 MB.
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Blomman
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
Are you in control of the SDR? The RCVR? Or both? Any channel exits?

Anything in the error logs for sending and receiving queue managers?

What is the size of the message being rejected?


How do you mean in control of SDR & RCVR im am mqadmin so im in control of everything..

No channel exits, message size 4,22mb, error logs on sendig qmgr(who is WMB qmgr) just say AMQ9544: Messages not put on a destination queue.
bla bla bla.....

Receiving qmgr has nothing in error logs.

//Micke
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exerk
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blomman wrote:
How do you mean in control of SDR & RCVR im am mqadmin so im in control of everything..

No channel exits, message size 4,22mb, error logs on sendig qmgr(who is WMB qmgr) just say AMQ9544: Messages not put on a destination queue.
bla bla bla.....

Receiving qmgr has nothing in error logs.

//Micke


I asked because I wasn't sure whether the RCVR end was within your control, or whether the 'owners' had told you the setting was correct. So, if I understand correctly, it is a 22MB message? Or a 4.22MB message?

Either way it is within the maximum allowed setting, so I suggest rechecking all MAXMSGL attribute settings on all objects (and setting the channels to a stopped state before checking them).

As regards the SDR, have you got conversion by sender selected?
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And if using a client are you using the standard environment var MQServer or a channel table or anything else?

BTW updating to V7 would get rid of some of that chatter for you...

Enjoy
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exerk
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
And if using a client are you using the standard environment var MQServer or a channel table or anything else?...


Blomman wrote:
...Sender and receiver channel...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is the DLQ on all qmgrs on the path set to 100 MB? Have the logs space to hold that big a msg?
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atheek
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you sure you are explicitly setting MAXMSGL to 100 mb in your channel definitions at both ends and not setting to 0 to take the values from qmgr definition

Saw this APAR for v5.3

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IY62636

Anyway,it was fixed in csd09
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Blomman
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Problem solved after restarting SDR channel, i thought changing the attribute should be enough...

//Michael
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I seem to recall a test question about when channel attribute changes take effect. Some take place immediately, others after the channel is stopped and started.
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blomman wrote:
Problem solved after restarting SDR channel, i thought changing the attribute should be enough...

//Michael


Changing of channel attributes always requires a channel restart!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can think of one channel attribute that doesn't require a stop/start.
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
I can think of one channel attribute that doesn't require a stop/start.


Which one? I do not know about any channel attribute, which does not require channel restart!

And I am pretty sure, that there is no such attribute.
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zhanghz
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nice, i learned something. I once changed the MCA id in a RCVR channel and found it not effective until the remote side stopped and re-started their SDR channel. Now I know why..
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