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Jose Munoz
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: WebSphere Application Server for z/os using QSG Reply with quote

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Hi,
We have WebSphere Application Server for z/OS (zWAS) working in our sysplex (2 LPARS A and B). A zWAS cluster have one application server on each LPAR. Righ now each server is connecting to each MQMGR in each LPAR (in bindings mode) and we want to use QSG connectivity to have high availability in our zWAS clustering servers. According with IBM manuals, it is possible.
I cannot understand if one QMGR comes down (A), how the the application server running in the same LPAR (A) where the QMGR is not available (A) can connect to the QSG and how the applications executing on server A can retrieve messages from the queue-shared on CF.
Some one could explain me details how can QSG provide to zWAS (all cluster members) high availability? When one member of the QSG (QMGR A) comes down, it is not available, we must stop the application server on that LPAR (A)?
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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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having a QSG does not mean that WAS A on LPAR A can connect to QMGR B on LPAR B when QMGR A und LPAR A is down. You have shared queues not shared queuemanagers.

so if you create a QSG of QMGR A and QMGR B, and if you use shared queues for the WAS application, then WAS A and WAS B can process the same queues. Now if QMGR A goes down, WAS A will no longer be able to process messages, so WAS B has to do all the work.

if it is possible to use shared queues is also a matter of the application design, it's not just a configuration issue. Maybe WAS B is not able to handle messages, that are destigned for WAS A (e.g. because of sessions, replies, ....)
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Jose Munoz
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Butcher,
Thanks to answer.
Then QSG does not provide High Availability (HA) for WebSphere application servers on z/OS. Do you know any WMQ configuration on sysplex to provide HA for WebSphere application servers on clusters?
LPAR A LPAR B
Server A Server B both servers on same cluster
QMGRA QMGRB sharing Queue X

Reading IBM manuals, I understand if QMGRA comes down QMGR B provides all the services for queue X then applications running on LPAR A can access queue x directly using xcf services. Is this right?
Both LPARs are available, only QMGR A is down.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jose Munoz wrote:
Reading IBM manuals, I understand if QMGRA comes down QMGR B provides all the services for queue X then applications running on LPAR A can access queue x directly using xcf services. Is this right?



Mr Butcher wrote:
having a QSG does not mean that WAS A on LPAR A can connect to QMGR B on LPAR B when QMGR A und LPAR A is down. You have shared queues not shared queuemanagers.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is somewhat dated:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=tss1wp100367&aid=1

Better, newer:

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/SG246850.html?Open
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