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| bay hoe san |
 Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: z/OS - PQEDIT, PathWAI Editor, MQ Visual Edit |
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Hello,
1. PQEDIT running on z/OS has EOS since 2006. Seemed like the replacement is either IBM PathWAI or MQ Visual Edit.
2. I need experts' advise on the following doubts that I have:
1. IBM PathWAI or MQ Visual Edit does not run on z/OS platform?
2. IBM PathWAI or MQ Visual Edit run on distributed platform and either 1 can administer qmgrs on z/OS platform provide say relevant RACF accesses are given, am I right?
3. Pls advise. Thank you very much.
.Hoe San. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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MQ client connections can access any queue manager which allows client connections. The editor does not need to run on the host platform, but it helps if it has support for EBCDIC messages (and most have).
Unfortunately the "client attach feature" is a chargeable option on MQ for z/OS (not a good thing in my view).
You may find that RFHUTILC (support pac IH03) does most of what you need (and is free). Also check out MO71.
These tools just use the MQI, if you can code in a mainframe language you can develop your own ISPF interface.
There are one or two ISPF based MQ support pacs which might be useful. |
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| bay hoe san |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Hello Grand Master,
1. Thanks for your advise. Don't really understand your advise. Hope u won't mind to explain further on your advise to my queries.
2. By the way, may you also advise me on the ISPF support pacs for z/OS with at least similar capabilities as PQEdit?
3. Thank you.
.Hoe San. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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MQ Explorer will connect to zOS qmgrs and let you edit manage them that way....
In MQ v7, there is a limited license for the CAF for up to 5 administrative client connections that is included at no charge. |
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| bay hoe san |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Hello Grand Master,
1. Thanks for your input.
2. PQEdit has the editing function. I briefly browse through MA10 and I think it doesn't has edit function, pls correct me if I am mistaken.
3. Is client attach feature in z/os? If so, how to check?
Thank you.
.Hoe San. |
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| bay hoe san wrote: |
1. Thanks for your input.
2. PQEdit has the editing function. I briefly browse through MA10 and I think it doesn't has edit function, pls correct me if I am mistaken.
3. Is client attach feature in z/os? If so, how to check? |
Hello,
From MQ Visual Edit's FAQ section in the User manual:
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Q. Can I use MQ Visual Edit with my mainframe (OS/390 or z/OS) queue managers?
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A. Yes. But you need to have the CAF (Client Attachment Feature) installed on the mainframe. On the mainframe, go to SDSF and look in the xxxxCHIN (where xxxx is the queue manager name) output for a message:
CSQX099I - xxxx CSQXGIP Client attachment feature available
If this message doesn't show up, then you don't have the feature installed. The CAF is a required for any client program (including MQ Visual Edit) to connect directly to a mainframe queue manager. |
Yes, rfhutil (ih03) is free and MQ Visual Edit is $99 per user but comparing the two programs is like comparing Windows Notepad to MS Word.
SupportPac IH03 is free but is unsupported and is released with the terms: Category 2 SupportPacs are provided in good faith and AS-IS. There is no warranty or further service implied or committed and any supplied sample code is not supported via IBM product service channels.
As an example, the latest release of IH03 claims to now support security exits. I tested the feature out for another product (MQAUSX) but it failed. I reported the bug to the author several months ago and have not received a fix for the problem. We have real customers who use MQAUSX and IH03 that this affects.
MQ Visual Edit is built from the ground to be the best MQ message editor. It can connect to ANY queue manager that supports distributed queuing (z/OS requires CAF). It can open an unlimited number of queues from an unlimited number of queue managers at the same time (limited only by your PCs RAM).
MQ Visual Edit is used by over 400 companies worldwide and I am pretty sure that it has over-taken PQEdit as the number one stand-alone MQ message editor in the world.
MQ Visual Edit has a huge list of features that I wouldn't list here but you can read about here:
http://www.capitalware.biz/mqve_overview.html
We are on "beta3" for the next release of MQ Visual Edit. Here's a list of features / enhancements:
- Added new Insert Message Wizard that supports 7 formats: None, String, RFH, RFH2, IMS, CICS and SAP
- Added new Import Message Wizard that supports 7 formats: None, String, RFH, RFH2, IMS, CICS and SAP
- Added a new Visual Queue Depth tool (real-time chart)
- Added 'Show System Queues' checkbox on the Open Queue window
- Added the ability to switch between languages when MQ Visual Edit is running
- Added a new XML Message Editor (the XML Viewer still exists)
- Added 'Expand All' and 'Collapse All' on the XML Viewer panel.
- Added 'Format XML' (pretty print) on the XML Viewer panel.
- Fixed random null pointer error when opening a queue
- Removed 1-to-500 delay popup for List Of Queues function
- Updated the text for the French and Dutch languages
Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Nothing can actually edit MQ messages in place. It's only possible to remove them and replace them with new messages.
IH03 can do that and you can manipulate the data in a file (using any text editor) before replacing it on the queue.
Try it and see. After all it is free and I can recommend it highly having used it for years without any problems. Also useful for testing if you have the CAF (ask your sysprog as well to define a client channel or tell you the name).
If you want to use a native 3270 interface then you can remove messages from the queue, place them in a dataset, invoke the ISPF editor and then replace them in the queue from the dataset. You would have to develop this function but it's easy if you can program in Cobol or REXX etc.
However you refuse to explain your actual requirement and constraints (eg lack of CAF?) so this is all conjecture. |
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| Nothing can actually edit MQ messages in place. It's only possible to remove them and replace them with new messages. |
I never claimed that. MQ Visual Edit operates on messages using the standard MQ API calls.
| zpat wrote: |
| IH03 can do that and you can manipulate the data in a file (using any text editor) before replacing it on the queue. |
Sure. As I mentioned in my comparison of IH03 and MQ Visual Edit to Notepad and MS Word, there are differences. If you prefer IH03 to MQ Visual Edit, then that is your preference. Many companies and people want a full-featured supported product, that is their preference.
| zpat wrote: |
| However you refuse to explain your actual requirement and constraints (eg lack of CAF?) so this is all conjecture. |
| bay hoe san wrote: |
| 1. PQEDIT running on z/OS has EOS since 2006. Seemed like the replacement is either IBM PathWAI or MQ Visual Edit. |
"EOS since 2006". They want a supported product that is regularly updated / enhanced and a preference to a z/OS product.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I like to understand the underlying requirement before proposing commercial solutions.
Are we talking developers or support staff here for example?
However the direct replacement for PQEDIT is the PathWAI product. It is browser based and doesn't require client connection access. Not sure that it can run on z/OS but no doubt IBM can advise.
I quite like the Appwatch product from MQ Software, this is also browser based message access, but does work on z/OS providing the Appwatch server can have client access to z/OS.
http://www.mqsoftware.com/products/appwatch/ |
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