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belchman
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: MQ for Linux on Z-series box Reply with quote

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I am looking for "how-it-works" information regarding MQ for Linux running on z-Series box.

Does anyone know of any docs to point me to, to discover how this will work?

I need to know things like:

Can a z/OS qmgr and a linux qmgr from on the same z-zeries box?
What happems to XXMSTR and xxCHIN tasks, etc?
What types of implementations any of you have where you are using Linux on mainframe?

We currently run only z/OS MQ on mainframe with no client connections to mainframe qmgrs. All client connections are via a distributed gateway.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no expert by any means on this subject, but as far as I know they have nothing to do with another. the z/Linux QM and z/OS QM don't even know they are on the same box...

but if you use hipersockets you get channels on steriods!
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171&context=SSFKSJ&dc=DA400&uid=swg27011774&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en&rss=ct171websphere
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More about messagebroker on z/Linux, but should give you a clue on how it applies to MQ aswell:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0804_squibb/0804_squibb.html
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belchman
PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks Michael. I will take a gander.

I am still searching to the end of the Internet for other info.

The current poser I am wrestling with is...

Can we somehow replace our z/OS queue manager that acts as a service entry point into backend CICS business services? We have the CICS adapter running to look at init queues on z/OS and I am trying to determine if the CICS adapter will work with MQ on Linux in the same fashion.

If anyone knows that this thought process is a waste of time, please tell me so I will give up and I will concede that we will always need the z/OS qmgr to support triggering.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CICS has to talk to a local qmgr. Which means it cannot be a client to a zLinux system.

Think of a zLinux qmgr as identical to AIX, Windows, Solaris etc. It is the same code.

It happens to execute on the same physical box as z/OS (and can therefore use hipersockets for inter-qmgr channels). But apart from that, there's no relationship.
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No, you can't get the same functional interactions with CICS from a queue manager running on zLinux - as zLinux is an entirely separate LPAR.

CICS would have to establish a client connection to the zLinux queue manager... and you'd therefore lose your transactionality. Plus, it's not really possible I believe.
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Thank you Jeff and Mark...

It was becoming quite difficult to prove this not ...
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CICS has to talk to a local qmgr. Which means it cannot be a client to a zLinux system.

Which means both cics and the qmgr must be running in the same lpar.
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