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bittu
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: Message can't devilered Reply with quote

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Hi
I am using MQ5.3 with CSD12 on solaris m/c on prod env we are using server channel to send the data.

When I try to send the data(big file containd 500 records file size is 331k) server channel goes to initialise stage and does not start ,records are stuck up onto XMITQ .
Each time I have call to check the requester channel at other end.

When it happened I save the XMITQ using configuration manager ask to start the requester channel than start the sender channel, later on i put the same message using config manager message put successfully without any error, I see message disappear and channel count does not increase.I have checked onto DQL and failed Queue also.
I have checked all the permission at both the ends.

This is working onto test env using server channel.

Does anyone face such problem ? Where is my message.
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Gaya3
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Message can't devilered Reply with quote

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bittu wrote:
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I am using MQ5.3 with CSD12 on solaris m/c on prod env we are using server channel to send the data.

Out of Support upgrade to V6

When I try to send the data(big file containd 500 records file size is 331k) server channel goes to initialise stage and does not start ,records are stuck up onto XMITQ .

Each time I have call to check the requester channel at other end.

When it happened I save the XMITQ using configuration manager ask to start the requester channel than start the sender channel, later on i put the same message using config manager message put successfully without any error, I see message disappear and channel count does not increase.I have checked onto DQL and failed Queue also.
I have checked all the permission at both the ends.

I didnt get any thing over here, from where this Configuration Manager comes in to picture here...are you using MB along with this.



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bittu
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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QPassa Configuration manager ...
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Message can't devilered Reply with quote

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bittu wrote:
Where is my message.


If it's non-persistent, nowhere.

Are you using sender/receiver or server/requestor channels? If the latter, why (in requirement terms)?

Why do the channels need to be manually started in the scenario you describe? Why are they not left running/triggered?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Message can't devilered Reply with quote

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bittu wrote:
Where is my message.


If it's non-persistent, nowhere.

Are you using sender/receiver or server/requestor channels? If the latter, why (in requirement terms)?

Why do the channels need to be manually started in the scenario you describe? Why are they not left running/triggered?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am using server /requester chanel with persistent queue.


when CHANENL is onto the running stage . suddenly it went to initialise stage when data comes through and msg stuck up in transmisstion queue.

at the same time we have to remove the messagae from XMIT Queue.
contact to check the requester channel and i refersh the sender

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Queues are neither persistent nor non-persistent.

Messages are persistent, or not persistent.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bittu wrote:
I am using server /requester chanel with persistent queue.


Queues are not persistent. Messages are persistent, or not. Queues have a default persistence, which the putting application is free to ignore.


bittu wrote:
when CHANENL is onto the running stage . suddenly it went to initialise stage when data comes through and msg stuck up in transmisstion queue.


Again I ask why? Why is the channel not running? Is it normal for channels to suddenly stop running? What have your investigations found?

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at the same time we have to remove the messagae from XMIT Queue.
contact to check the requester channel and i refersh the sender


If you've removed the message from the XMIT queue then that's where it's gone (to answer your original question)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Initially Server/Requester channel is running .
When application put the messages they stuck tothe XMIT Queue and channel status goes to initialise stage.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bittu wrote:
When application put the messages they stuck tothe XMIT Queue and channel status goes to initialise stage.


I'm going to keep asking why the channel stops running until you tell me...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's whay i have no idea why channel goes to initialise stage as the mesasges arrives to the queue.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bittu wrote:
That's whay i have no idea why channel goes to initialise stage as the mesasges arrives to the queue.


Ok, so I won't keep asking. I'll give up now.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
bittu wrote:
That's whay i have no idea why channel goes to initialise stage as the mesasges arrives to the queue.


Ok, so I won't keep asking. I'll give up now.



answer to Vitor's question...

Check MQ Error logs and find out the issue....
There are lots of loop poles


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gaya3 wrote:
There are lots of loop poles


I think you mean loopholes....

...unless you can poke people with these! (Not a bad idea I hasten to add!)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no comments....

Lets wait for bittu's explanation

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