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| fjb_saper |
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Oracle may be used as a database to store MQ statistics. However you need a Monitoring tool to create said statistics.
So if you are trying to use Oracle as a monitoring tool for MQ you are completely on the wrong track!
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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FJ - Oracle does make more than just databases these days.
Or at least sells more than just that.
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| Vitor |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
FJ - Oracle does make more than just databases these days.
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Like Oracle Fusion, which will sweep IBM from the SOA/Middleware market and dump all of us into the Dustbin Of History.
No, really, the sales guy was quite clear on that. 
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| Gaya3 |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| jefflowrey wrote: |
FJ - Oracle does make more than just databases these days.
Or at least sells more than just that. |
Like Oracle Fusion, which will sweep IBM from the SOA/Middleware market and dump all of us into the Dustbin Of History.
No, really, the sales guy was quite clear on that. |
Then Let me think of learning ORACLE FUSION else it will fuse IBM Products...................
I do remember, they are having aggresive marketing strategy....
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| AkankshA |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
FJ - Oracle does make more than just databases these days.
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especially after acquiring bea, they portray themselves as ... 
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| Vitor |
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I do remember, they are having aggresive marketing strategy....
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What they are not having is case studies, reference sites, methodologies or samples.
Also slightly alarming to be told the site could have it "free" with the database licenses. I'm not used to enterprise scale software being free. 
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| Also slightly alarming to be told the site could have it "free" with the database licenses. I'm not used to enterprise scale software being free. |
For only a few dollars more, I'll sell you this blue button to get you down.
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What they are not having is case studies, reference sites, methodologies or samples.
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not only this.. but also their products are not that user friendly... u cant just install and learn on ur own at all..
stability is also not there...
it took me days to even start their identity management tool.. 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:55 am Post subject: |
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We are dump terminals most of the times.........
sales team wont discuss anything with us,
they go directly to the top of the client management and will come in  Smile which kills our Smile... by selling a product of $1M with in seconds...
Indeed we've to work on that, if its friendly or not..........
Mods: Better move this to General Discussion Forum
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| Vitor |
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| fjb_saper |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
FJ - Oracle does make more than just databases these days.
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I am sure they have the perfect tool for monitoring AQ and even the JMS installation of AQ on their appserver.
Does that mean that this tool should monitor MQ?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Also slightly alarming to be told the site could have it "free" with the database licenses. I'm not used to enterprise scale software being free. |
For only a few dollars more, I'll sell you this blue button to get you down. |
Oh my God, he's gone Daffy...... 
(From WMB to WB in a single step!)
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