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| rufo_mublinder |
 Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: mqseries version |
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Hi to everybody,
I would like to know which version are:
B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX
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B.10.500.00 MQSeries for HP-UX
I think that is v.5.3 and v.5.0 but I´m not totally sure
Is it possible to share ques between this releases?
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't think so. As a general rule you never share queues between releases or even between qmgrs (except maybe on zOS and you need a QSF).
Is it possible to transfer messages between the 2 versions using qmgr A at version 5.0 and qmgr B at version 5.3 most probably.
But PLEASE move to a supported version (6.0.x.x) as soon as possible!
Enjoy 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: mqseries version |
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| rufo_mublinder wrote: |
| I think that is v.5.3 and v.5.0 but I´m not totally sure |
IMHO you're right. Consider the v5.0 version toxic.
| rufo_mublinder wrote: |
| Is it possible to share ques between this releases? |
Unless something very, very wrong is happening these are installed on 2 separate machines so sharing queues is impossible. You can't install 2 different version of MQ on the same HP-UX box, and if you've by some piece of dark magic achieved this then all bets are off!
If you mean "can I send messages from a v5.3 queue manaer to a v5.0 queue manager and vice versa", then yes you can if you can get v5.0 to run and stay running.
Upgrade to v6.
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| rufo_mublinder |
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: |
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thank you, so
there is a server with B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX
and another server with B.10.500.00 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX. they are sharing ques between them using java. that's the thing that they told me last week.
very weird, isn't it?
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| rufo_mublinder wrote: |
thank you, so
B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX its v5.3
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B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX its v.5.0 ? |
No, both of those are v5.3 (having the same build number). 
You should still upgrade to v6 as even v5.3 is out of support.
v5.0 is a rotted corpse wandering round like some kind of zobmie. Put it out of it's misery.
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| fjb_saper |
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| rufo_mublinder wrote: |
thank you, so
B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX its v5.3
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B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX its v.5.0 ? |
No those have the same # and should both be 5.3 possibly CSD 01 ==> really antiquated... and out of service? (not so familiar with HPUX particularities but 5.3 distributed has been out of service since Sept. of last year...!)
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| rufo_mublinder |
| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| rufo_mublinder wrote: |
thank you, so
there is a server with B.11.530.01 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX
and another server with B.10.500.00 WebSphere MQ for HP-UX. they are sharing ques between them using java. that's the thing that they told me last week.
very weird, isn't it? |
I'm sorry I changed versions. i was asking about 11.530 and 10.500 that i think that are different versions |
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| Vitor |
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| rufo_mublinder wrote: |
they are sharing ques between them using java. that's the thing that they told me last week.
very weird, isn't it? |
Very, as queue sharing is only implemented on mainframe and not on versions as old as v5.0!
I will refrain from commenting on the truth and/or accuracy of statements made by developers concerning MQ (like "it loses my messages") and will propose the theory that they're sharing queue mangers, where the java apps are clienting onto one or other versioned queue manager according to need.
Aside from that if they're using Java against v5.3.1 they need their heads tested (they should be on at least CSD 10) and AFAIK the Java support pack MA88 didn't work on versions lower than v5.1!
(For our younger readers, Java support wasn't added to the base product until v5.3. Before that it was a support pac you had to add. Yes, there was programming before Java).
So it's not just weird, it's dark magic. Or they're not doing what they think they're doing where they think they're doing it.
And whatever they're doing they should be doing it on v6!!!
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| bruce2359 |
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A quick comment on queue-sharing on z/OS. A shared queue is not a local queue shared among qmgrs.
Rather, a shared queue is a queue propogated into a Coupling Facility so that it can be seem from multiple qmgrs (perhaps on multiple z/OS images). The real local queue still exists; and otherwise behaves like a local queue on any other MQ platform.
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