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Vitor
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Using WMQv6 in a Solaris sparse zone Reply with quote

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My current site has decided to install WMQv6.0.2.1 in a non-global sparse zone environment. I've found this:

http://hursleyonwmq.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/websphere-mq-with-solaris-zones/

and this:

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21233258

I wondered if anyone had any recent experiences they'd care to share, especially any gotchas they uncovered or useful documents over and above these two?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any Solaris V10 installation tip would help, I am working on setting up in a no zone setup and IBM provided me with little information that was not very helpful.
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UglyAngelX wrote:
IBM provided me with little information that was not very helpful.


Not too surprising, one of the links above indicates it's not a supported configuration hence the support is a bit thin!

I followed the instructions and got it working without too many issues. Or apparently working, not exactly stress tested the installs yet. It was to obtain warnings of future issues that I posted.....
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We just got our first "Sparse zone" where WMQ needed to be installed. WMQ isn't and will not be installed in the global zone, so I have been looking at http://hursleyonwmq.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/websphere-mq-with-solaris-zones/ and followed the steps for installing WMQ in a "Sparse zone" environment without WMQ in the global zone and a read-only /usr directory.
After performing all steps, the core WMQ 6 product installed without problems. However when it comes to the maintenance installation, it's a bit more tricky. Here are the steps that I have followed to get the 6.0.2.2 patch installed.
1. Extract the contents of the patch .img file using pkgtrans.
2. Move the mqm-*/root/usr directory to mqm-*/root/myzoneusr.
3. Replace /usr/lib/locale with /myzoneusr/lib/locale in the mqm-*/pkgmap file.
4. Remove all /usr entries in the mqm-*/pkgmap file.
5. Replace /usr/lib/locale with /myzoneusr/lib/locale in the mqm-*/install/postinstall file.
6. If values have been specified for variable NEW_LIB_FILES or NEW_BIN_FILES in the mqm-*/install/postinstall file, these values needs to be set to "".
7. Replace /usr/lib/locale with /myzoneusr/lib/locale in the mqm-*/install/preremove file.
8. Replace /usr/lib/locale with /myzoneusr/lib/locale in the mqm-*/install/ptf_files file.
9. Run the patch installation by running "pkgadd -d .". This will fail due to the changes made to mqm-*/install/postinstall & mqm-*/install/ptf_install.
10. So you need to update the entries for postinstall & ptf_files in the mqm-*/pkgmap file. Use the values from the error message received from pkgadd and make the updates.
11. Run the patch installation again and it will finish without errors.

We aren't using SSL so I haven't done any changes to the gsk kits and don't know the changes that might be necessary.

Hopefully this might help someone in installing patches in the "Sparse zone" with a read-only /usr directory, where no WMQ installation exist in the global zone.

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I'm really confused at this strong desire and effort spent to produce an unsupported configuration.
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I'm really confused at this strong desire and effort spent to produce an unsupported configuration.


Quote taken from http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21233258:
However, we do support a successfully installed WMQ into other zones configurations, provided that the configuration itself is not causing the problem for which support is requested.

/Andreas
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ahaggkvist wrote:
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I'm really confused at this strong desire and effort spent to produce an unsupported configuration.


Quote taken from http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21233258:
However, we do support a successfully installed WMQ into other zones configurations, provided that the configuration itself is not causing the problem for which support is requested.

/Andreas


So it's like VMWare then...

I'm more comfortable with that.
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jefflowrey wrote:
ahaggkvist wrote:
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I'm really confused at this strong desire and effort spent to produce an unsupported configuration.


Quote taken from http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21233258:
However, we do support a successfully installed WMQ into other zones configurations, provided that the configuration itself is not causing the problem for which support is requested.

/Andreas


So it's like VMWare then...

I'm more comfortable with that.


No, because in VMWare the images are separated. In this wretched thing, there is common storage and other good things knocking round which I barely understand.

And the caveat "provided that the configuration itself is not causing the problem for which support is requested" is a very important one. You'd be amazed how many things in this configuration are a result of "unsuccessful installation" (pkginfo typically reports the install as partially successful even when it works) or a result of "configuration issues" when you try & raise a PMR.

Still, mine not to reason why.
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No, I mean the support statement is like the support statement for VMWare.

We'll make best efforts until it's clear that it's the fault of <VMWare/sparse zone>.
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jefflowrey wrote:
No, I mean the support statement is like the support statement for VMWare.


My bad
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