ASG
IBM
Zystems
Cressida
Icon
Netflexity
 
  MQSeries.net
Search  Search       Tech Exchange      Education      Certifications      Library      Info Center      SupportPacs      LinkedIn  Search  Search                                                                   FAQ  FAQ   Usergroups  Usergroups
 
Register  ::  Log in Log in to check your private messages
 
RSS Feed - WebSphere MQ Support RSS Feed - Message Broker Support

MQSeries.net Forum Index » IBM MQ Performance Monitoring » Best MQ administration tool

Post new topic  Reply to topic
 Best MQ administration tool « View previous topic :: View next topic » 
Author Message
sdrazi
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Best MQ administration tool Reply with quote

Apprentice

Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 34

Hi

Can anyone please recommend an MQ administration tool which will help easy administration and help debug admin issues on MQ?

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Vitor
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Best MQ administration tool Reply with quote

Grand High Poobah

Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 26093
Location: Texas, USA

sdrazi wrote:
Can anyone please recommend an MQ administration tool which will help easy administration and help debug admin issues on MQ?


Have a look through the section. Each of the tools has strengths and weaknesses, most people have their particular favourites or requirements that need particular software.

For what it's worth, I prefer to use the command line and the Explorer rather than 3rd party tools because I know wherever I end up they'll be available.
_________________
Honesty is the best policy.
Insanity is the best defence.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yatiri

Joined: 07 Jun 2004
Posts: 620
Location: Germany

I tried a lot of tools. Some I liked better than others. But at the end I always came back to good old runmqsc.
Especially when it comes to clustering, there is not really a GUI that can compete (IMHO).

As one of my former working buddies used to say: "Never trust a GUI"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
zpat
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

Joined: 19 May 2001
Posts: 5866
Location: UK

For zero cost - MQ Explorer (from MQ v6 - but works with v5 queue managers) or Support Pac MO71.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
zpat
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

Joined: 19 May 2001
Posts: 5866
Location: UK

In my opinion, add-on admin tools (beyond the MQ explorer or MO71) are not always needed.

What you need is (a) good standards for MQ admin and development and (b) good understanding of the base products (c) trained people using proper procedures to make changes and (d) secured queue managers.

In other words - address the cause of problems, not the symptoms.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
zpat
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Council

Joined: 19 May 2001
Posts: 5866
Location: UK

You seem overly keen on it - why is that?

All I can say is that monitoring is not always needed if MQ is used properly - it does not go wrong.

Some simple alerting on queue depth perhaps but "needing" monitoring means your MQ setup is not robust in the first place.

It's the old story of swallowing a spider to catch a fly etc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fjb_saper
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand High Poobah

Joined: 18 Nov 2003
Posts: 20756
Location: LI,NY

Looks to me that if he isn't working for them, he's getting a kick back for every customer he can lure...

Agent less monitoring has been around for ages and it is mostly "in bandwidth". Most of us want our monitoring to be "out of bandwidth" and you just can't do that without some sort of software installation on the target box...
_________________
MQ & Broker admin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
RogerLacroix
PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 15 May 2001
Posts: 3264
Location: London, ON Canada

fjb_saper wrote:
Looks to me that if he isn't working for them, he's getting a kick back for every customer he can lure...


Regards,
Roger Lacroix
_________________
Capitalware: Transforming tomorrow into today.
Connected to MQ!
Twitter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
senMQ
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 14 Aug 2006
Posts: 66
Location: Palo Alto, CA

I'm not a big proponent of MQ explorer as it opens up the MQ environment (through the serverconn channels)

So, I rely on the good old runmqsc. This is what most of the sys admins use.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
RogerLacroix
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 15 May 2001
Posts: 3264
Location: London, ON Canada

senMQ wrote:
So, I rely on the good old runmqsc. This is what most of the sys admins use.

Actually, most MQAdmins of medium to large sized companies purchase an MQ package that provides them with configuration, administration and monitoring.

Once you get the MQ tool setup and running it is really a great time-saver. In the past, I have used Candle's CCC and contact admin's MQ Contact Admin and I was most definitely way more productive using those tools than using the default MQ tools.

The one MQ tool that I would like to try someday is QPasa. I've heard a lot of good things about it.

Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
_________________
Capitalware: Transforming tomorrow into today.
Connected to MQ!
Twitter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic  Reply to topic Page 1 of 1

MQSeries.net Forum Index » IBM MQ Performance Monitoring » Best MQ administration tool
Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Protected by Anti-Spam ACP
 
 


Theme by Dustin Baccetti
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Copyright © MQSeries.net. All rights reserved.