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| tmoeller |
 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: Setting up triggering |
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Hi all,
i need to setup some triggering for a local queue on a windows machine. i have never done this before and started reading some docs and tried to configure the channels. i want an external program (windows .exe) to be triggered to read the message from the queue. The .exe alone works fine, but the trigger seems to have no effect.
Is there anywhere a good doc (HowTo), where all the steps are described in detail to get something like this up and running.
Perhaps anybody can provide a link or anything else.
Thanks for any suggestions!
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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First, there's a few different FAQs and things labelled "TT" that will help.
Second, when trying to trigger applications, channels are not involved at all. So anything you read about triggering channels is completely irrelevant.
You just need to run a trigger monitor against an initiation queue, create a process definition, and adjust the properties of the queue you'd like to trigger, to enable triggering and use the initq and process definition.
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| Mensch |
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| Michael Dag |
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| tmoeller |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
thanks for the links you posted. I read them carefully and ran the triggermonitor from the command line instead of the built in one from the MQExplorer.
There i get the Error Message that the command "TMC" cannot be found.
Has anybody an idea where this comes from???
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| tmoeller wrote: |
Has anybody an idea where this comes from???
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Not directly, I'm not familar with that as a command to start a trigger monitor. Can you point me at the reference you're using?
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| tmoeller |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi Vitor,
i don't know exactly what you mean with reference, but i have a process-definition pointing to d:\testapplication.exe (EnvData).
Is that what you ask for??
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:52 am Post subject: |
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TMC would show up at the start of the command arguments passed to the program that got triggered, as it is the first part of the identifier for the MQTMC2 structure...
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| Vitor |
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| tmoeller wrote: |
There i get the Error Message that the command "TMC" cannot be found.
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So if you've got a process definition, how come it's trying to run what sounds like the front of the trigger header as a command?? 
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| dgolding |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like the command that's being run by the trigger monitor ONLY contains the TMC - the command is missing..... why don't you post your definition the process here, so it can be examined? |
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| tmoeller |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
all your questions lead me back to my initial question. What steps have to be taken to setup a trigger on a queue that executes an external windows program correctly?
I don't know if anything i configured is done right. Perhaps sombody can point out what has to be configured and what are the minimum parameters.
I do it all from the MQ Explorer and don't know if it is working right and how to do it better from the command line.
So, be indulgently with a newbie.
Thanks
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| tmoeller wrote: |
What steps have to be taken to setup a trigger on a queue that executes an external windows program correctly?
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These steps are listed in the links & docs already referred to. If you are accidently triggering the message as a process then you have clearly already set something up. IMHO any attempt we make to restate or rephrase these instructions is likely to lead to confusion & misunderstanding.
| tmoeller wrote: |
I do it all from the MQ Explorer and don't know if it is working right and how to do it better from the command line.
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Do not use MQExplorer. It's easier & clearly using script, especially as you can post what you've done in circumstances like this.
Extract the Process description as dgolding has requested and we'll stand a better chance of seeing what's wrong. Given the symptoms you're experiencing this has to be the most likely point of failure.
Which implies you've done the rest of it right of course! 
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| kevinf2349 |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds to me as if your application is dropping a message onto the wrong queue. If you are dropping the message onto the same queue that you are running the trigger monitor against....that would be the wrong one. |
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| Vitor |
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| kevinf2349 wrote: |
| Sounds to me as if your application is dropping a message onto the wrong queue. If you are dropping the message onto the same queue that you are running the trigger monitor against....that would be the wrong one. |
Good point.
So you should dump out the queue definitions as well and post those.
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| tmoeller |
| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
the Triggermonitor is listening on SYSTEM.DEFAULT.INITIATION.QUEUE.
These are the definitions:
* QMNAME (MSCOUT) +
* CRDATE (2007-04-05) +
* CRTIME (12.24.20) +
* ALTDATE (2007-04-05) +
* ALTTIME (12.24.20) +
* QMID (MSCOUT_2007-04-05_12.24.20) +
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ALTER QMGR +
AUTHOREV(DISABLED) +
DEADQ(' ') +
DEFXMITQ(' ') +
DESCR(' ') +
INHIBTEV(DISABLED) +
LOCALEV(DISABLED) +
MAXHANDS(256) +
MAXUMSGS(10000) +
PERFMEV(DISABLED) +
REMOTEEV(DISABLED) +
STRSTPEV(ENABLED) +
TRIGINT(999999999) +
MAXMSGL(4194304) +
CHAD(DISABLED) +
CHADEV(DISABLED) +
CHADEXIT(' ') +
CLWLEXIT(' ') +
CLWLDATA(' ') +
REPOS(' ') +
REPOSNL(' ') +
CLWLLEN(100) +
SSLCRLNL (' ') +
SSLKEYR ('C:\Programme\IBM\WebSphere MQ\qmgrs\MSCOUT\ssl\key') +
FORCE
DEFINE QLOCAL ('Melian.Scout.Data') +
* CRDATE (2007-04-05) +
* CRTIME (12.25.51) +
* ALTDATE (2007-04-05) +
* ALTTIME (15.45.43) +
DESCR('WebSphere MQ Default Local Queue') +
PUT(ENABLED) +
DEFPRTY(0) +
DEFPSIST(NO) +
SCOPE(QMGR) +
GET(ENABLED) +
MAXDEPTH(5000) +
MAXMSGL(4194304) +
SHARE +
DEFSOPT(SHARED) +
MSGDLVSQ(PRIORITY) +
HARDENBO +
USAGE(NORMAL) +
TRIGGER +
TRIGTYPE(EVERY) +
TRIGDPTH(1) +
TRIGMPRI(0) +
TRIGDATA(' ') +
PROCESS('MSCOUT.READER') +
INITQ('SYSTEM.DEFAULT.INITIATION.QUEUE') +
RETINTVL(999999999) +
BOTHRESH(0) +
BOQNAME(' ') +
QDEPTHHI(80) +
QDEPTHLO(20) +
QDPMAXEV(ENABLED) +
QDPHIEV(DISABLED) +
QDPLOEV(DISABLED) +
QSVCINT(999999999) +
QSVCIEV(NONE) +
DISTL(NO) +
CLUSTER(' ') +
CLUSNL(' ') +
DEFBIND(OPEN) +
REPLACE
DEFINE CHANNEL ('CLIENT.MSCOUT.TCP') CHLTYPE(SVRCONN) +
* ALTDATE (2007-04-05) +
* ALTTIME (14.41.26) +
TRPTYPE(TCP) +
DESCR(' ') +
HBINT(300) +
MAXMSGL(4194304) +
MCAUSER('svcmqm') +
RCVDATA(' ') +
RCVEXIT(' ') +
SCYDATA(' ') +
SCYEXIT(' ') +
SENDDATA(' ') +
SENDEXIT(' ') +
SSLCAUTH(REQUIRED) +
SSLCIPH(' ') +
SSLPEER(' ') +
KAINT(AUTO) +
REPLACE
DEFINE PROCESS ('MSCOUT.READER') REPLACE +
* ALTDATE (2007-04-05) +
* ALTTIME (16.19.07) +
DESCR('Writes Message Content into DB') +
APPLTYPE(WINDOWSNT) +
APPLICID(' ') +
USERDATA(' ') +
ENVRDATA('D:\CMDBScoutReader.exe')
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