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Blomman
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Transaction timeout? Reply with quote

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Hi all!

My setup: Broker --> Qmanager.
Is it possible in some way to set a timeout value for transactions on my Qmanger?

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pathipati
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you make it little clear?
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Blomman
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pathipati wrote:
Can you make it little clear?


Just wondering if it in some way is possible to set a timeout.
If i dont want transaction to run longer then this value, i simply want to cut them of if they are taking too long.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which transactions? Transactions with MQ? Transactions with a database?

The time it takes your entire flow to execute?

The time it takes to commit all the transactions in your flow after your flow has completed successfully?

Globally coordinated transactions? Locallly coordinated transactions? Uncoordinated transactions?

Which version of Broker? Which version of MQ? What OS? What database or databases?
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Hi Blomman,

Are you trying to implement this transation with MQ or with Broker ?

Broker message flows can be in transaction, and you could perhaps timeout flows to rollback...

What is your exact business requirement....?

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Blomman
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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elvis_gn wrote:
Hi Blomman,

Are you trying to implement this transation with MQ or with Broker ?

Broker message flows can be in transaction, and you could perhaps timeout flows to rollback...

What is your exact business requirement....?

Regards.


Hi im not really sure where i want the transaction to timeout.
And yes its a "Transactions with MQ".
Im simply sending messeges from broker to qmanager and im using a messageflow in the broker too "route" messages too this qmanager.
I just want the transactions for the messages too timeout.

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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blomman wrote:
Im simply sending messeges from broker to qmanager and im using a messageflow in the broker too "route" messages too this qmanager.
I just want the transactions for the messages too timeout.


Why? Isn't the whole point of MQ that messages take as long as they take to arrive, but always do in the end? If you terminate the sending from the flow, how will you compensate for that with the input transaction?

Blomman wrote:
Hi im not really sure where i want the transaction to timeout.


I think if you put a little more thought into "where" and importantly "why" (in terms of business logic), the "how" will become a lot clearer.
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Blomman
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Vitor wrote:

Why? Isn't the whole point of MQ that messages take as long as they take to arrive, but always do in the end? If you terminate the sending from the flow, how will you compensate for that with the input transaction?


True! But idont know why the app developers want this function i have told them the same thing u told me..

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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blomman wrote:
Vitor wrote:

Why? Isn't the whole point of MQ that messages take as long as they take to arrive, but always do in the end? If you terminate the sending from the flow, how will you compensate for that with the input transaction?


True! But idont know why the app developers want this function i have told them the same thing u told me..

/Blomman


So until they come up with their requirements how can you possibly provide a solution? Even assuming the solution properly sits within the middleware layer??
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