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ivanachukapawn
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Clustering AIX, Solaris, Windows, and ZOS queue managers Reply with quote

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Can a ZOS MQSeries 6.0 queue manager join a mid-tier cluster which has repositories on Solaris and AIX? I have read about the Shared Queue facility available with ZOS MQ (which appears to be somewhat of a counterpart to the mid-tier MQ Clustering facility) but I don't know if ZOS MQ queue manager can also join a cluster and advertise its queues to mid-tier queue managers.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's no problem with a cluster across z/OS and mid-range, though you tend to find full repositories on the z/OS for availability reasons (though that's a design issue not a technical one).

AFAIK queue sharing can only be performed between z/OS queue managers; I've never tried queue sharing on a clustered z/OS queue. I suspect you'd encounter problems.

"Ordinary" local queues on z/OS act as the same in a cluster as for mid-range.
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Vitor
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Be aware that if you have a mixed cluster of v5.3/v6 queue managers the additional clustering parameters introduced by v6 are ineffective on the lower level queue managers.

The Clustering manual explains all this.
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I'd think you could share a shared queue in an MQ Cluster without much problem.

But I'm not a zOs person and I haven't done it. Maybe someone else will chime in ...
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Vitor
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jefflowrey wrote:
But I'm not a zOs person and I haven't done it. Maybe someone else will chime in ...


Nor me - where the situation's potentially arisen both z/OS queue managers have been cluster members without queue sharing.

Interesting to hear from anybody who's tried it ...
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Ivans
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I played with clusters and QSGs a while ago with no problems and the MQ manuals do refer to such architectures. A "shared cluster" search of the infocenter comes up with details, including...
-http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqsat.doc/csq82en.ht
-http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/topic/com.ibm.mq.csqzah.doc/csq68xa.htm

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Vitor
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Again, the value of RTFM

Thanks for the links.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: Clustering AIX, Solaris, Windows, and ZOS queue managers Reply with quote

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ivanachukapawn wrote:
Can a ZOS MQSeries 6.0 queue manager join a mid-tier cluster which has repositories on Solaris and AIX? I have read about the Shared Queue facility available with ZOS MQ (which appears to be somewhat of a counterpart to the mid-tier MQ Clustering facility) but I don't know if ZOS MQ queue manager can also join a cluster and advertise its queues to mid-tier queue managers.


z/OS MQ Queue Sharing is done in a fiberoptic attached, high-bandwidth, coupling-facility storage device. Additional admin queue (and other) definitions cause the inbound (mqput) message to be delivered to coupling-facility structure that holds the queue image. z/OS queue mangers authorized to participate in queue sharing groups can access the shared queue to get/put messages.

z/OS queue-sharing has noting to do with MQ clustering. z/OS MQ can participate in clusters, as well.
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