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shanu
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: delete the object instead of creating it Reply with quote

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tou mean to say . I should recreate the Queues and the channels for the QMGR
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excuse me?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think this is the orphaned continuation of

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34002&highlight=

and what we said was look up how to cold start a queue manager!

(And some other good advice obviously)
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shanu
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: cold restart of Queue Manager Reply with quote

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Thanks for your advice.

Should I recreate the queue manager in some other server with same name and objects and copy their complete logs to the present QM.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: cold restart of Queue Manager Reply with quote

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shanu wrote:
Should I recreate the queue manager in some other server with same name and objects and copy their complete logs to the present QM.


Was that the cold start advice you found?
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shanu
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi ,
got the following advice from link

http://middleware.its.state.nc.us/middleware/Documentation/en_US/htm/csqsaw01/csqsaw012x.htm#LICSQ84F3

Prepare the object definition statements that will be used when you restart the queue manager. To do this, either:
If page set zero is available, use the CSQUTIL SDEFS function (see Producing a list of WebSphere MQ define commands (SDEFS)). You must get definitions for all object types (authentication information objects, CF structures, channels, namelists, processes, queues, and storage classes).

What page set is it refering to?
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why would you possibly trust someone's REPLICATED copy of an IBM manual, when the same manual is easily available at IBM's website.

Why would you possibly look for information about coldstart in a z/OS manual when you aren't using z/OS?

Use the Search button at the top of this page. Enter "cold start".

Read the links that appear here.

Go to the MQ Information Center. Put "cold start" into the search button there.

Read what the actual CURRENT documentation has to say.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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shanu wrote:
What page set is it refering to?


Page set 0, where the z/OS implementation of MQ stores this sort of thing.

If you're not on mainframe, that's potentially the wrong advice to follow. And if you are, how can you accidently delete a log?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had sent 67 MB file from remote server. Deleted the log as my program was unable to retrieve the message from the queue, and error in QMGR log was QMGR log is full...

I had already done the primary logs to 62 and secondary to 1. The log level could not be increased above this, so I dont know why.... I deleted some logs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with Jeff, don't bark up the wrong tree!
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shanu
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: cold start Reply with quote

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I got the Link for the cold start. Will try it in ACP first.
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=28218&highlight=cold+start

Thanks a Lot Vitor and Jeff!
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: cold start Reply with quote

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shanu wrote:
Will try it in ACP first.

Maybe that's where you should have "tried" deleting log files first, too.

But really, you should have gone back to the MQ Information Center and read the sections in the System Administration Guide on managing logs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Queue Manager recovered successfully now.

Thanks a lot
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