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sr_lleo
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Delete auto-define sender channel Reply with quote

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Hi,

After QM was removed from Cluster, still auto-defined sender channel exists and it is in retrying mode. How to delete auto-define sender channel in full-depository QM.

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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What steps were taken to remove the QM from the cluster?
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sr_lleo
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
What steps were taken to remove the QM from the cluster?


I have done the following steps:

1. In Full Repository QM, I suspend qmgr from the cluster.
2. Remove the cluster recevier channel.
3. Modify namelist without the cluster name.

And, same steps were done in partial repository queue manager. After done the above steps, the auto-defined sender channel is still exists and it is retrying mode.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You mention a namelist - what does that control?

How is the cluster working if you've removed the cluster receiver channel in the full repository?

Why was this done on the full repository anyway? Why not suspend the queue manager in question and remove the manual cluster channels as per the book (which would have deleted it's auto defined channels)?

You probably need to try a REFRESH CLUSTER and see what that gets you. The best course of action (perhaps even before the refresh) is to re-add the queue manager to the cluster & delete it correctly (or as recommended in the manual if you prefer).
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tsdlp
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Cluster channel problem Reply with quote

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Hmmm, no one really answered the question. I have a QM with 3 "junk" Automatic Cluster Senders still in STOPPED status. I want to remove them, how to? They show up in my WIndows folder called "Cluster Queue Manager", not the CHANNELS folder.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster channel problem Reply with quote

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tsdlp wrote:
Hmmm, no one really answered the question.


In fairness, he never answered mine, nor came back with any feedback on my suggested course of action.

IMHO you should start a new thread, laying out what steps took you to this postion, the reasoning behind those steps & what you've already tried to remove these objects.

I promise someone will respond.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Cluster channel problem Reply with quote

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tsdlp wrote:
Hmmm, no one really answered the question. I have a QM with 3 "junk" Automatic Cluster Senders still in STOPPED status. I want to remove them, how to? They show up in my WIndows folder called "Cluster Queue Manager", not the CHANNELS folder.


Set the channels ti INACTIVE with the command:
Quote:
STOP CHL(...) STATUS(INACTIVE)


When you remove a QMgr out of a MQ cluster, you have to wait until all channels in the cluster to this QMgr became inactive - or set them manually to INACTIVE as described above.
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pathipati
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Using the RESET CLUSTER command is the only way to delete auto-defined cluster-sender channels. You can issue the RESET CLUSTER command only from full repository queue managers.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chiru wrote:
Using the RESET CLUSTER command is the only way to delete auto-defined cluster-sender channels. You can issue the RESET CLUSTER command only from full repository queue managers.


A REFRESH CLUSTER(...) REPOS(YES) on the partial repository will remove all cluster inormations, but automatically defined cluster channel have to become INACTIVE first.

The RESET CLUSTER on a full repository is in general not neccessary to remove a QMgr from a cluster.

The removal using REFRESH CLUSTER is described in the document Queue Manager Clusters, chapter 9 Advanced tasks, task 5 (in the version 5.3 docs) or task 10 (in the version 6 docs) Removing a queue manager from a cluster.

Important remark: The docs of version 5.3 are incomplete, because the REFRESH CLUSTER(INVENTORY) REPOS(YES) is missing.
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