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IanB
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: books Reply with quote

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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Hi,
I did a quick search of the forum and couldn't find the standard book thread. So...
Can anyone recommend a good MQ book? We're currently 5.3 and I don't imagine that will change in the near future.
To help tailor your suggestions, I'm a developer, most fluent with MS technologies, although workwise C++ isn't an option, so .net and VB are fave.
I'm familiar with messaging technologies, Tibco, WebMethods (the company not the technology), SmartSockets, MSMQ, etc, but have exactly two days experience of MQ
The IBM documentation is generally good, but I find the site slow, and MS averse.
If there are any texts that got you off the ground, that's what I'm after.

Cheers
Ian
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joined: 13 Oct 2003
Posts: 137

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The IBM documentation is generally good, but I find the site slow, and MS averse.


You r working on MQSeries so why will they be averse of it ? Do you think they will hide some tricks or neat tips on Windows Platfrom ?

Also IBM site may be slow as it is averse you using Windows, Anyways it works pretty fast to me and I guess the same to others,

Finally -

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/wmq/library/library53.html

which has the link to .net book

http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi.cgi?CTY=US&FNC=SRX&PBL=GC34-6328-02

and you can download it right away to your desktop, You can download the application program guide too to use the MQ API. Voila
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In fact, you can download the entire v5.3 Information Center and/or the entire v6 Information Center to run locally on your desktop.

They won't, however, update on a regular basis like the online version does - although particular with the v6 Info Center it shouldn't be hard for the appropriate person or team to create an eclipse Update site to allow this.
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zpat
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Download the PDF version of the IBM manuals and read offline.

Same for Redbooks, these are generally more readable and contain examples of code etc.

www.redbooks.ibm.com
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IanB
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got the redbooks, I've always loved the whole redbook concept. Didn't know I could download the infocentre, I'll give that a go. I don't know why it's so slow for me, everything else works at a blistering rate, it's just publib and IBM sites in general.
By MS averse, I mean that the COM library documentation is incomplete and in places wrong, the DOTNET documentation is very incomplete (PCF is missing altogether, but it doesn't work properly anyway so....).
To be fair though I've not checked out the quality of the documentation for other supported languages, so they might be as bad. It does seem that if I used the Java library my little PCF issue would become a non issue, but it would be the only Java in-house app so can't go there :/

I was also suprised by how little information there is on 3rd party sites. I'm clearly getting soft. This site is an absolute god send and I'm truly thankful it's here.

Thanks for the suggestions and the PM, I appreciate your time.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Start with sg247128 MQ V6 Fundamentals.pdf for an excellent overview of MQ concepts. MQ is different than other messaging products, and has its own terminology.

Next, the Quick Beginnings for your platform - GC34-64760 Windows Quick Beginnings.pdf, for example.
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tleichen
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IanB wrote:
... I don't know why it's so slow for me, everything else works at a blistering rate, it's just publib and IBM sites in general.

The IBM site is slower than most because they stuck in some in-between steps and a Download Director (for some reason which, to this day, I have not heard adequately justified). I ran into that same problem over six months ago. Most other sites that have PDFs, just make a list of links to the PDFs themselves. You right-click on the item, and hit "Save As...", nice and neat. You can't do that with the IBM site. Go figure.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/wmq/library/library6x.html

All the PDFs you could ever want. I grant having to click the T&C each time before you get the PDF is irritating, but that's corporate copywrite for you....
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