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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: security Reply with quote

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I have this requirement for setting up encryption on our messages. It is a windows 2003 MQ 6.0 to AIX MQ 5.3 communication via sender/receiver channel pair. This is the firt time i am working on the encryption, what do you recommend SSL\channel exit?? Any recommendations for a tool to buy and set it up easily.
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you need to secure the communication? or the messages?

The Base MQ will only let you secure the communication - the channel.

If you need the messages to be secure/encrypted ON the queue, you have to either use WebSphere MQ Extended Security Edition or third-party tool.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks jeff for the reply. I want to basically secure the message. Which third party tool do you recommend??
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am not aware of any third party tools. That doesn't mean there *aren't* any.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean SSL is the best approach?? Do you have any recommendations for getting those from any particular company??
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The SSL support that is provided with MQ will NOT encrypt messages on the queue.

It ONLY encrypts the MQ channel traffic.

In general, "SSL" means "Secure Socket Layer", and so usually always only refers to SOCKET traffic - over the network and not on local storage.

I do not have any particular recommendations for securing messages on the queue. The only product that I know of that does this is the WebSphere MQ Extended Security Edition.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry jeff to mislead you, we don't want the message secured in the queue, we want them secured only while transmission between the sender and the receiver channel.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then SSL is fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any recommendations to get those from a particular provider??
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's *built-in*.

Try reading the Security Manual.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks Jeff.
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vennela
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mq_crazy wrote:
Any recommendations to get those from a particular provider??

When you say provider do you mean CA signed certs?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes
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FZoli
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: SSL MQ Client Reply with quote

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Hi!

I have a problem with MQ client connection with SSL.
I have a client connection without SSL, and it works fine.
I need to setup SSL connecton. I set the ssl key repository
(set MQSSLKEYR=D:\mqm53\!DEFAULT.STO) and the certificates:
amqmcert -a -p PERSONAL_CERT_FILE -z cms
amqmcert -a -s CA_CERT_FILE -z cms
amqmcert -d HANDLE
And I set the SSLCIPH attribute on server connection channel TRIPLE_DES_SH_US
After that the command: amqsputc Queue QM writes the folowing error:

Sample AMQSPUT0 start
MQCONN ended with reason code 2393

Can you tell what is the problem? Did anybody see a client SSL connection working?

Thanks,
Zoli
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In order for amqsputc to use the SSL, you will have to also configure a client connection channel for the server connection channel you are using, and set the environment variables to point to the client connection table (AMQSCLCHL.TAB), instead of using MQSERVER.
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