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psanders
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: MQ and Websphere AS - 1 or 2 machines? Reply with quote

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We have a Websphere application that uses JMS. MQ is used to exchange data with a ZOS application. I would like to get opinions on the advantages and disadvantages of using the MQ Client on the Websphere server vs installing a full queue manager on that machine. We do not want to to run Websphere on ZOS.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no MQ client for z/OS.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
There is no MQ client for z/OS.

I think prior to v6 there is no MQ Client for z/OS

If you have a QMGR on z/OS and WAS on a distributed platform, then you can either use client mode to connect to the z/OS QMGR or install the QMGR on WAS box and setup intercommunication between the two QMGRs.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm.... This is not going where I want it!

I plan on using LINUX for the Websphere and MQ so the ZOS client is not important. I was looking for opinions on what issues might arise running the two together on LINUX vs using two separate machines. One with just a queue manager and another with Websphere AS and the MQ Client. ZOS only enters into the configuration in that it is a 2nd or 3rd machine to which the queue manager on LINUX must communicate.
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vennela
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are planning on using MQ for just this purpose, then it is always better to put it on the same box as WAS.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vennela -
Even in v6, there is no way to create a client connection FROM a z/OS machine, as far as I know. It's just not possible - not even using the Java client.

You have always been able to establish a client connection TO a z/OS machine, provided you have the CAF.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
Vennela -
Even in v6, there is no way to create a client connection FROM a z/OS machine, as far as I know. It's just not possible - not even using the Java client.

OK. Somehow I had the impression that v6 has a z/OS MQ client.
Thanks for the correction
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As far as I know, there isn't.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After seeing your post I checked the manuals and it says MQClient is not available for z/OS or iSeries. So, I was wrong there.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could you elaborate on why you suggest the Websphere and MQ should reside on the same box?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
As far as I know, there isn't.


Do you mean to say that if you are running java on zlinux or zOS and have the jars you will still not be able to make a client connection to a distributed qmgr?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
jefflowrey wrote:
As far as I know, there isn't.


Do you mean to say that if you are running java on zlinux or zOS and have the jars you will still not be able to make a client connection to a distributed qmgr?


Yes.

Edit: Well, I don't know about zLinux.
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