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Dom Longman
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Broker V6 Implement protocol conversion?????? LU6.2???? Reply with quote

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Looking to replace our existing message switch with Broker on Z/OS.

We have a number of protocols between apps and the current message switch (i.e. Lu6.2 over IP).

The blurb surrounding version 6 mentions protocol conversion and IP support but cant find any details on it? Will we have to code our own session level handling (i.e. resync) in Java nodes for these app protocols in the Broker or does it come with some clever session/application level protocol handlers (window size etc etc).?

Any ideas or anybody had experience in doing this?
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wschutz
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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are you looking for the broker to wrap/unwrap your LU6.2 traffic from the TCP/IP envelope? The broker can't do that ...
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Dom Longman
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guess easiest way to explain is need functionality for other protocols similar to what MCA does in MQ, so initiate link between app and middleware, window size and depth, resync in case of failure etc etc all MLP type items. otherwise what does IBM mean when they say: 'V6 implements protocol conversion"?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More along the lines of hhtp(s) <-> mq <-> jms (realtime) <-> scada <-> mqE .....
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Dom Longman
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got you, well thats good for the new stuff but we've even got some X25 still floating about.. let alone inhouse developed protocols and telex... and LU6.2 being IBM..... so much for legacy app inclusion

Was hoping the FN pack might help, but sounds like might have to dust off java skills and write from scratch, cheers for the info.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQ itself will bridge LU6.2 to TCP/IP... Just create an LU6.2 Receiver channel and a TCP/IP Sender channel... And cause messages to move through both.

But both ends need to be already using MQ.

I suppose you could modify the TCP/IP Nodes that are in a support pack IA98 to speak LU6.2 and your other protocols.

Also I know there is a WBI Adapter for TCP/IP, there may be for other protocols. If there isn't, you could probably pay the Dublin lab to write one for you.
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Dom Longman
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for that info, also looking at session / application level issues.
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JLRowe
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are CPI-C bindings for java in the personal communications product:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pcomhelp/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.pcomm.doc/client_server31.htm

This means that you could re-write your clients in java, and have them provide an 'on-ramp' to MQ, SOAP over HTTP, SOAP over JMS or whatever you want.

The better solution is to re-write the services themselves to use MQ, preferably in an XML format, and even better SOAP over JMS.
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Dom Longman
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Impacting the clients is not an option sadly, cant put a new middleware product in and tell all the legacy apps to change in the real world! Costs too much.
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