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pathipati
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Max Qmanagers Reply with quote

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what is the maximum of number Queue Managers i can create on Windows XP machine(MQ5.3V)
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vennela
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It depends I guess.
But I wouldn't create more than 10 and keep them running
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EddieA
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I seem to remember that there was a maximum that could be run on Windows, because you hit a limit on some part of the OS, not MQ. Try searching the forum.

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WingCommanderBadger
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Multiple Queue Managers per Machine Reply with quote

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Did anyone ever propose an answer to this question? I'm looking into an architecture (as proposed by a supposed Specialist MQ Consultancy) that may involve running several business-partner specific QMs on a single server in our DMZ here (the QMs in the DMZ just act as a 'gateway' into our internal services and use QM Aliases to forward on messages). The idea being that each business-partner's QM will be isolated from the others in the DMZ and thus an attack on one will not affect other business partners.

Anyhow, I was wondering what the hypothetical upper limit would be to the number of QMs on a Windows server and a Linux server. Is there an 'industry standard' calculation that can be performed to give me a rough estimate?

Thoughts?
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Let me suggest an alternative.
Use a single gateway instead of one per partner but use a listener per partner ==> a different port per partner. This allows you to perform some isolation in case of a denial of service attack by shutting down the incriminating port/ listener (Thanks Peter, I do learn from you) but subjects you to a single point of failure. (so you could have it hardware clustered...).

Risk factor : The qmgrs accessed from within your environment on the different partners need to all have a different qmgr name. You will run into trouble if partner A has the same qmgr name as partner B but this can be resolved using different aliases and making the alias to be used known to your partner.

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WingCommanderBadger
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the advice - it's certainly something I'll consider. However I'd still like to know if there are any guidelines regarding max number of queue managers on a server. I can't seem to find any advice about an upper limit (supported by any reasons) anywhere.
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Biju
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont think you can have a specific answer to your query. As the number of QMgrs increases the number of processes running will increase too. You could get a list of them from
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9326&highlight=processes+mq
So it should purely depend on the system configuration you have. Kindly correct me if I am wrong
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Multiple Queue Managers per Machine Reply with quote

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WingCommanderBadger wrote:
The idea being that each business-partner's QM will be isolated from the others in the DMZ and thus an attack on one will not affect other business partners.


Lot to think about when dealing with EDGE Queue Managers. If they share the same disk, it's possible that I could flood QM1 with so many bad messages that its DQL gets so deep it fills up the disk, effecting all other QMs on that server. There are ways around this if you think about it.
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