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BrianMc
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:32 am    Post subject: SYSTEM.CSQUTIL.* Reply with quote

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Hi,
Where do the SYSTEM.CSQUTIL.* queues come from? Is it okay to use supportpac MO11 to delete them? I am using MQV5.3 on z/os 1.4.

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bob_buxton
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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These are probably reply queues created by the CSQUTIL utility,
perhaps your SYSTEM.DEFAULT.MODEL.QUEUE specifies the creation of permanent dynamic queues rather than temporary dynamic queues.

It should be safe to clean them up.
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techno
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I see SYSTEM.CSQOREXX* queues too, getting created from the same model queue. Is it okay to change PERMDYN to TEMPDYN? Does the ISPF MQ panel work properly with this change?

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wschutz
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Be careful, tempdyn queues can't hold persistent messages, and I believe csqorexx sends persistent requests to the command server and gets back persistent replies.

Best just to clean them up occasionally.....
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javagate
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I looked in the MQ 5.3.1's SCSQPROC(CSQ4INSR).
QMODEL( 'SYSTEM.DEFAULT.MODEL.QUEUE' ) is delivered with
DEFTYPE( TEMPDYN ) from IBM.
I have not had any problems with CSQOREXX , CSQUTIL or any products (TMON) or support pacs needing to create dynamic queues.
Although I am not sure this was always delivered as TEMPDYN. May have been PERM from some earlier release.
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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CSQUTIL and CSQOREXX use the SYSTEM.COMMAND.REPLY.MODEL, and this one is DEFTYPE( PERMDYN )
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javagate
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So be it... I changed that one to Temp long ago without any problems with dynamic queues.
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wschutz
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll redact my earlier comments, as even the MQ zOS planning manual says you can make that queue a TEMPDYN.
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