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| sebastianhirt |
 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes and no... You can theoretycally transfer files that big. But I would not advice to do it. It is just creating too much issues. We had this discussion in another thread not so long ago. You will find it if you use the search button.
There is a supportpack available that allows FTPing to queues on the IBM homepage. But I don't know whether this comes with source code. |
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| ashoon |
| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: use websphere pm4data |
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it runs on all platforms natively, has support for all platform file types and can convert, can move any file size type as it breaks it down into small messages and reconstructs, and finally it's damned fast as compared to FTP.
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| sebastianhirt wrote: |
| There is a supportpack available that allows FTPing to queues on the IBM homepage. |
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| sebastianhirt |
| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ashoon |
| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: strongly suggest you look at pm4data!!! |
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based on what you said above I recommend you look at pm4data for file based integration.
you mention security, file size, platforms, and auditability. All of those are handled out of the box by the PM4Data/MQ combo...
security - depends on what you want but SFTP is just encryption over the transport which is the same as using SSL on the MQ channels. Also permissions to file based resources are controlled by the OS. The UID passed through PM4Data can be specified at the sender, receiver, or can be that of the transfer requestor. Finally if you really want to beef up security MQ's security edition can do non-repudiation as well as queue data encryption (most likely the SSL will suffice). Side note - one great thing about PM4Data is that the sender/receiving servers do not need to initiate the request. You can start a transfer by creating an MQ XML message, by the command line (for scripts), manually, or by a directory monitor on the distributed platforms.
File size - any file size is capable... I understand one customer in the US is doing 30Gig/hr. via PM4Data and those files are larger than 5Gig's on avg (big brother is watching).
platforms and file types - PM4Data can handle all types of files as well as conversion between file types... I understand OS400 and zOS mainframe file types are tricky to move onto distributed platforms. os/390: Physical Sequential Data Sets, PDS, PDSE, VSAM, GDG and os/400: Logical files, Physical Files including Source, IFS... NSK and it's file types as well... however do not believe that VMS is supported but there are options 
auditability - all transfers, users and optionally file data are stored and searchable.
A few other neat things - it's not pt-to-pt anymore (since it uses MQ you can easily feed a file into the broker), as well as many-to-many file transfers. Fixit utility - web-based admin tool showing what's moving, successful, failed and why, as well as stats around that... finally since it's on MQ once and once only delivery which is much better than the QOS of FTP.
Do I sound like a sales rep yet??? It was funny when I first saw this product I was wondering why hasn't this caught on like wildfire... call you IBM rep and get a demo of PM4Data...
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: Re: one quick question |
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| praveenraju wrote: |
| sorry i forgot to ask u one question... does this product support FTP betwen mainframe, AIX, linux, NT, AS400, and VMS.. this is mandatory!!! |
It doesn't actually "support" FTP at all.
It replaces FTP with MQSeries related transport. I do not know if it runs on VMS.
And I know it can be extended to use FTP as a "post-processing" step if necessary.
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| ashoon |
| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:46 am Post subject: Re: one quick question |
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no - it doesn't run on VMS - but as Jeff mentions easily extended to use FTP as a post-process step - i.e. PM4Data can drive (and audit) an FTP server.
Clarifying it's support for FTP - it doesn't use the FTP protocol to transfer file data... the software instead uses MQ as the transport to accomplish the same thing FTP does - move file data across servers.
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| praveenraju wrote: |
| sorry i forgot to ask u one question... does this product support FTP betwen mainframe, AIX, linux, NT, AS400, and VMS.. this is mandatory!!! |
It doesn't actually "support" FTP at all.
It replaces FTP with MQSeries related transport. I do not know if it runs on VMS.
And I know it can be extended to use FTP as a "post-processing" step if necessary. |
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| rtsujimoto |
| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm in the final stages of rewriting my FTP over MQ system. It runs on AS/400, HP-UX, Windows, AIX and MVS. I'm thinking of trying to find a vendor to market it, but I wasn't sure of the interest level. All comments, questions welcomed. |
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| hopsala |
| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, you should probably put out a beta and post the address in another thread dedicated for Q&A. Without a beta or at least some spec-sheet it's a bit out there... |
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