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halbe01
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:51 am    Post subject: MQ to Database connectivity Reply with quote

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Hi,

We have a requirement to be able to take incoming MQ messages and put them in a database table (Oracle, as it happens), and to also be able to do the reverse (ie take rows from a table and convert to messages).

We're not running a Broker, so apparently can't buy the JDBC adapter (which otherwise would work perfectly). I've been searching for 3rd party tools to do this job, but can't find any which seem suitable.

I'm aware that there are some Oracle add-ins which might do this, but as I'm not an Oracle expert, a 3rd party tool should be simpler to get to grips with.

Has anyone done this - preferably without writing a bespoke tool (which we could do, but it'd never be as reliable as something we purchase). Can anyone recommend any tools?

Many thanks for any advice,

Ben.
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Cliff
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ben,

what you are describing is quite simple. All you need is to choose a language that can talk to Oracle and can talk to MQ - there are plenty that can do this including Assembler, COBOL, PL/1, Perl, C, Visual Basic, Java .....

Depending on your requirements you may want to consider XA transaction coordination. Oracle is XA compliant, so no problems there.

Hope this helps -
Cliff
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halbe01
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the reply Cliff - that seems to be the response I'm getting in general to this query. And of course you're right, I can write a tool for this if that's the best option, however I'm just very surprised there isn't anything commercially available. It seems like it would be a common requirement.

Guess I'll just have to make the tool good and then sell it..!

Cheers,
Ben.
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Cliff
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ben,

if your requirement is to talk to Oracle for a specific application, then there may well be an adapter in the marketplace. The Crossworlds product used to provide this kind of functionality - it's now evolved into some other part of the Websphere product set though, and I can't remember what it's now called. If you need other transformation and routing too then you could consider the Message Broker as this can also do what you want though it's far too big (and expensive) a product just to be used to stash and retrieve messages to and from Oracle!

If you are going to write some code yourself, don't forget there are lots of good code examples around to help you get going. There is the code repository here and also one on Roger Lacroix's Capitalware site. And I expect a post here would elicit a response from someone willing to share code.

Good luck -
Cliff
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"best" oracle mq "standalone" gateway

http://www.multiconn.com/mq_oracle.html

or use oracle's internal stuff integrated into the enterprise version

http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/aq/htdocs/msgwy_ds_html.html

this is new version and not to be mistaken for the old "Oracle Procedural Gateway" which allowed for MQ communication aswell
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