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| Saugui |
 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: Bar file too big to deploy |
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Hi,
I have a Broker Archive (BAR) file created in WBIMB/CSD3.0 and it's size is 300KB.
Then I used the same message flows and created another BAR file using WBIMB/CSD5.0a. This produced a file of 800KB.
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Sometimes a dictionary from a later release will be a little larger than earlier dictionaries. However, you are describing a huge jump in size. Is it possible that you ticked the 'Include source files' box this time? |
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| Saugui |
| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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I found out what it was...
We have a common flow which we recently added some Web service nodes into the flow.
It seems like these web services flow, is very memory hungry.
You should try it. I think you would definitely need a more "beefer" environment for the broker if you want ot deploy message flows with HTTP nodes for Web Services.
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| kirani |
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I'm glad I ordered those new servers 
kimbert, Any idea how one would use "Include source files" option? I mean how does it help in Change Management procedure? What's the "Best Practice" for using this option?
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| kspranava |
| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: just a guess... |
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| "Include source file" is included probably to retrieve msgflows and msgsets from a BAR file. Am i correct?If so, can anyone tell me how???? |
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| EddieA |
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| If so, can anyone tell me how |
Open the bar file with your favourite ZIP program.
Cheers,
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Hi Kirani,
The 'Include source files' option is definitely not a replacement for proper configuration management. I think its just a convenience feature for unofficial sharing of project source files. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Does it have anything to do with debugging?
That is, if you deploy a bar file that includes source, can I debug it from a Toolkit that does not have the source in a project?
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| Bill.Matthews |
| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
Does it have anything to do with debugging?
That is, if you deploy a bar file that includes source, can I debug it from a Toolkit that does not have the source in a project? |
It has ntothing to do with debugging.
Check your readme's - there is information about handling large BAR files.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| Bill.Matthews wrote: |
It has ntothing to do with debugging.
Check your readme's - there is information about handling large BAR files. |
I didn't mean the problem with deploying a large bar file.
I meant the "Include source" checkbox. I was wondering if the reason to include source was so that you could debug on a Toolkit that did not have the source already in the workspace.
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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I guess its there so if you deploy a bar file and the flow blows up, theortically you can open up that bar file and look at the source code that produuced this flow.
Otherwise you have to go hunting for the source code somewhere else, and not be 100% sure you found the right source code.
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| ydsk |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I don't think so. It doesn't make/show any difference when I check the check-box for "Show source files". The size and content of the bar file remain the same before/after checking the check-box.
Can anyone explain a bit what this feature is all about. I mean, if anyone knows it for sure without guessing.
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| JT |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| It doesn't make/show any difference when I check the check-box for "Show source files". The size and content of the bar file remain the same before/after checking the check-box. |
It 's the 'Include message flow/set source ' check box that will increase the size of the bar file, not the 'Show source files'. |
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| ydsk |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi JT,
Where do you find that option to check "Include source files" ? Pls let me know.
Thanks.
Diwakar. |
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| JT |
| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Open the bar file.
Select the 'add' button, to the left of the remove button (X).
On the subsequent 'Add to Broker Archive' window, in the lower left corner of the window is a small checkbox with the text 'Include message flow/set source'. |
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