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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: [SOLVED]Manually delete a qmgr? Reply with quote

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So we had a qmgr get damaged during some HACMP testing (AIX, MQ5.3 CSD 05).

And so we ran the HACMP script to delete the qmgr, and we can see that it got as far as actually running dltmqm.

But it's been running that for about half an hour now...

We're going to kill and try doing it manually.

Is there a procedure we can follow if dltmqm doesn't work? Is it sufficient to delete the qmgr directories, clean up any shm, and hand edit mqs.ini?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hrm.

Doing what I should have done first and searching IBM support...

This is very cryptic: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171&context=SSFKSJ&q1=dltmqm&uid=swg21162937&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en

It seems to be Mainframe?
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It's iSeries (aka AS/400)
Mainframe Queuemangers can only be 4 characters, this one is called KAREN...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MichaelDag wrote:
It's iSeries (aka AS/400)

Ah, yes. The best of z/OS and AIX all mingled together.



still deep in it. Fun with rebooting lpars and finding that nothing is configured to start up automatically... including needed mount points!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:

Fun with rebooting lpars and finding that nothing is configured to start up automatically... including needed mount points!

So you remove the QM from the HA setup on both (or more nodes) and
now the filesystems do not mount properly?

no wonder dltmqm does not work

since there is no 'registry' magic like on windows, you should be able to delete the directories manually and edit the ini files....

do take a backup... even though the Qmr is damaged, you don't want to get into a deeper mess...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MichaelDag wrote:
So you remove the QM from the HA setup on both (or more nodes)

That probably would have been a good idea first.

MichaelDag wrote:
now the filesystems do not mount properly?

No, they're not set up to mount automatically at startup. We rebooted the LPAR.

MichaelDag wrote:
no wonder dltmqm does not work
It appeared, actually, to have been a semaphore problem.

MichaelDag wrote:
since there is no 'registry' magic like on windows, you should be able to delete the directories manually and edit the ini files....

Yeah. That AS/400 article seemed to indicate that that *would* work. But I'm concerned about things like the very poorly documented vpd.properties file that WAS uses to keep track of what is installed. And the fact that WAS has "How to delete stuff manually" directions, and MQ doesn't.

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do take a backup... even though the Qmr is damaged, you don't want to get into a deeper mess...

I won't say we've reached bottom yet. Cause, you know, then the floor breaks...
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Doing what I should have done first icon_redface.gif and searching IBM support...

Or even read the manuals.

Try Appendix D of the System Administration Guide. It's called Stopping and Removing Queue Managers Manually.

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I don't think there are enough
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I don't think there are enough

it just proofs your human too
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MichaelDag wrote:
jefflowrey wrote:
I don't think there are enough

it just proofs your human too


Nahh. It just means I really need to switch back to being a developer...
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