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| cisiva |
 Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: Intergrating workflow with mainframe |
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| I am trying to integrate my workflow model with some main frame applications. Can you recommend some documents which describe how to go about the integration. Can i use integrator for this?? |
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| CHF |
| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Can i use integrator for this?? |
YES
UPES ---> WFXML ---> WMQI Adapter ---> COBOL Copy Book ---> CICS
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| cisiva |
| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: More info pls.... |
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Would care to elaborate... we are aware of the UPES ---> WFXML ---> WMQI Adapter bit , but after that its all grey for us. Can you recommend any ibm books or something which may have mor einformation.
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| CHF |
| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:51 am Post subject: Re: More info pls.... |
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| cisiva wrote: |
| but after that its all grey for us |
Black box for me too. All I could tell you is that use WMQI to change the data from WFXML to COBOL copybook and push this data to CICS (MF) applications.
I am not a mainframe guy. I am not aware of any documentation too. Hope the experts here will look at this post and suggest some documentation if there is any.
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Look at the XML interface in WF Programming Guide. UPES is used to interac with external apps. UPEServer (could be Integrator) has to parse the XML it gets from WF, do whatever it has to do (like interacting with Mainframe ) and send the result back to WF.
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| vennela |
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It all depends on what you want to do.
It is not defnitely restricted to
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| UPES ---> WFXML ---> WMQI Adapter ---> COBOL Copy Book ---> CICS |
this path
What is WMQI Adapter ?
Is it your custom written flow?
Is it an out of the box adapter? If yes then which one?
What do you want to integrate? Is there an application on the mainframe? If yes then what is it? C, COBOL, PL/I Java or what is it? It all depends on what you want to do. As far as I know there is no workflow document. However, you can install workflow on z/OS if that is what you want. All workflow does is put an XML message to a QUEUE. Now this QUEUE can also be on the mainframe while the workflow server is on the distributed platforms. So the best thing for you is to think in the lines
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| Look at the XML interface in WF Programming Guide. UPES is used to interac with external apps. UPEServer (could be Integrator) has to parse the XML it gets from WF, do whatever it has to do (like interacting with Mainframe ) and send the result back to WF. |
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| cisiva |
| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: This is what i am trying to do |
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Here is a senario for which I am trying to find an EAI solution. There are many Legacy Systems each running its own application and there are ERP tools like SAP. Now the first step do an application integration i guess we shoudl use the MQ Integrator for this purpose. Then to automate the business process using the MQ workflow.
Now my problem is i understand how the workflow is connected to the Integrator. I do not understand how the Integrator is connected to the legacy systems or their applications. And also how it connects to the ERP applications.
Or is there a way to so this without using the Integrator. I am making a presentation on Enterprise Application Integration and I have to explain how the connectivity occurs. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Since this is an Integrator question, I'll try and answer it.
You connect Integrator to legacy applications using queues, or other adapters.
That is, in your case you would use Integrator to do the following - model your XML (this is actually optional)
- Model your legacy COBOL data (probably by importing a COBOL copybook)
- Write a message flow that will take XML data from an input queue, convert it to your COBOL data, and put that on an output queue.
One reason for using Integrator in this fashion is that you can create one input format, and map that to whatever output formats each legacy application needs.
ERP integration would also be achieved in the same way, with queue or adapter input, then data transformation, followed by queue or adapter output.
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