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MQRR
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mike,
That is what my guess is. But I am not sure how they are working individually for you when u test them.
If it is possible try to delete tht Q and test it.
MQRR
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stubie
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:01 am    Post subject: I feel your pain Reply with quote

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I am suffering the same problem. It seems to be related to a NOOP activity being the last activity in the flow. Here's what I have found:

I have defined a test model that has three paths:
1. A manual activity, a NOOP, and a manual activity. This works fine.
2. A manual activity and a NOOP. This causes the execution server to throw an internal error and shut down, and the process gets stuck in "running" state.
3. A manual activity followed by a NOOP in a block, with another manual activity outside the block. The NOOP goes into an InError state, but the process does not stop -- the activity outside the block is reached.

This is a problem as of SP3. All of these paths work without error in SP2. SP3 is a mess anyway -- we have two hotfixes already. My guess is that a third is on the way.
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mike_mq
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes Stubie. You are correct. Looks like it is a bug in SP3. I am getting the same results with similar scenarios you mentioned. Will see what happens

Best Regards,
Mike.
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stubie
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:28 pm    Post subject: To be fixed in SP4 Reply with quote

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I opened a PMR with IBM. It turns out that they were already aware of the problem (it was reported internally) and have a fix that will be included in SP4. No hiper fix will be made available, but SP4 could be out as early as next week.

I'll retest with SP4 once I get it and post results.
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mike_mq
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:43 am    Post subject: [SOLVED] Reply with quote

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Problem has been solved with SP4.

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Mike.
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jmac
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: [SOLVED] Reply with quote

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mike_mq wrote:
Problem has been solved with SP4.=


Not in my opinion... but it all depends on what you want to do w/ the NOOP. I think IBM has made a mistake with the changes they implemented in SP3
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alexey
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm working with WF 3.4 SP4, and NOOPS seems to work fine as described in WD01 Support Pack, page 66:
using FMCINTERNALNOOP as program, server=NONE, choosing asynchronous, NO DEFINITIONS of dummy UPESes or queues.

I've tested this in blocks, outside blocks, with or without transition conditions, default connectors, etc., works fine AFAIK .

Alexey.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The problem with the NOOP as of SP3 is that IBM changed the rules.... NOOPs that ran fine prior to SP3 will now go InError.... If you are starting from scractch you should be able to design whatever you want, it's only if you have existing templates that use the noop according to the original rules that there is an issue.
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