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DrajMQ
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks tczielke.

That was a great explanation for Endianess. Also the clue was fantastic. I checked back for the version, it was 16777216.
(16777216) in decimal = (1000000) in hex.
This will be very helpful for future reference. Thanks a lot.



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PaulClarke
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DrajMQ,

Isn't your question covered in the first bullet?

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Space previously occupied by a message which has now been removed from the queue using MQGET is immediately available for re-use by ANOTHER MESSAGE ON THE SAME QUEUE


Perhaps I misunderstood the question but essentially the QM will over-write the queue file if it can.

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DrajMQ
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks Paul.

Is there any specific reason u mentioned the below if -
QM will over-write the queue file "if it can".

Are there any factors for the queue manager's behavior for the above.

The reason for my that question is because in our Prod environment the Q file size is not getting over-written (this behavior is intermittent), but in TEST environment it is getting over-written.



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The size of the file won't change if portions of it are being reused.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The size of the file won't change if portions of it are being reused.
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PaulClarke
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DrajMQ,

No, I didn't mean anything particular by the phrase "if it can". I merely meant that that when the Queue Manager is looking for somewhere to store a message it will try ot re-use file space already allocated first. It would surprise me if there was a difference in behaviour in test and production if the conditions are the same. ie. same MQ version, same tuning - ie checkpoint frequency, same queue usage pattern etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DrajMQ wrote:

The reason for my that question is because in our Prod environment the Q file size is not getting over-written (this behavior is intermittent), but in TEST environment it is getting over-written.

What evidence do you have that made you come to this conclusion?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
DrajMQ wrote:

The reason for my that question is because in our Prod environment the Q file size is not getting over-written (this behavior is intermittent), but in TEST environment it is getting over-written.

What evidence do you have that made you come to this conclusion?

I've seen this difference in behavio(u)r before.

Applications MQPUT messages buffers in WMQ's virtual storage. For many application types, the consuming app MQGETs the messages from buffers immediately. These messages will likely not be written to queue-holding disk filesystem.

For messages not consumed immediately, WMQ buffer-management software will move messages from virtual storage to the queue-holding disk file system to harden them. Later, as messages are consumed from disk, that space on disk will be marked as re-usable.

TEST and PROD have differing activity levels. A developer testing the producing app will test it many times, possibly with no consumer running.

WMQ makes no guarantee how, when, or under what circumstances, all of this back-end magic takes place.
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