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| AnAtomist.NoElectrons |
 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: Object is in use (open exclusive) by Omegamon/Candle |
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| Our production QMgrs are monitored by Omegamon/Candle. I cannot stop them without affecting entire alerts function. Please suggest alternatives. |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Object is in use (open exclusive) by Omegamon/Candle |
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| AnAtomist.NoElectrons wrote: |
| Our production QMgrs are monitored by Omegamon/Candle. I cannot stop them without affecting entire alerts function. Please suggest alternatives. |
You could temporarily remove access to the affected queues (setmqaut) then use MO71 to select and delete the messages you wish gone, and re-enable authorities after. Situations like this are one good reason to use a QALIAS as a first-resolution object.
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| suneel |
| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:14 am Post subject: |
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What is the OS you are using?
If it is Linux or solaris you can use qload. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:23 am Post subject: |
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You can use Qload on more than that - and also, with a client connection you can attach to any QM.
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| JosephGramig |
| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| suneel wrote: |
What is the OS you are using?
If it is Linux or solaris you can use qload. |
You missed the part where GET is disabled, so no it can't. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| suneel wrote: |
What is the OS you are using?
If it is Linux or solaris you can use qload. |
You missed the part where GET is disabled, so no it can't. |
This is perhaps the best reason for applications to always MQOPEN QAlias (or QRemote) definition, rather than a QLocal. This allows us to get(disable) the alias while we do our evil deed on the get(enabled) TARGET of the alias.
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| JosephGramig |
| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| JosephGramig wrote: |
| suneel wrote: |
What is the OS you are using?
If it is Linux or solaris you can use qload. |
You missed the part where GET is disabled, so no it can't. |
This is perhaps the best reason for applications to always MQOPEN QAlias (or QRemote) definition, rather than a QLocal. This allows us to get(disable) the alias while we do our evil deed on the get(enabled) TARGET of the alias. |
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| AnAtomist.NoElectrons |
| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:20 am Post subject: Thank you for all suggestions. |
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Hi all,
Thank you for all the great suggestions. I will try to convince my team to have QAliases for all Qs, to prevent future issues. I appreciate all your quick help.
Thanks. |
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Thank you for all suggestions. |
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| AnAtomist.NoElectrons wrote: |
Hi all,
Thank you for all the great suggestions. I will try to convince my team to have QAliases for all Qs, to prevent future issues. I appreciate all your quick help.
Thanks. |
Or design the app to avoid the need to clear local queues, or request the app to develop their own capability to clear / process quques.
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| alexf400 |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Try using the rfhutil tool. That can delete messages when processes are still attached to the queue. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:37 am Post subject: |
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So can MO71 or MQ explorer - just choose the MQGET option. But it can be painfully slow over a client connection with many messages.
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