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| Vitor |
 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| In banking and insurance (my last two assignments), developers are explicitly prohibited from accessing any PROD artifact. |
Who said the developer was doing it directly?
I indicate in any earlier post that a user trace might be in response to a production ticket, which could be the support team running it on behalf of a developer, or a developer running the user trace in Prod using a "Break-The-Glass" id activated in response to the ticket.
In all my I.T. years, I've had 2 manufactoring assignments, the rest were in banking & insurance (USA, UK & Australia) so I know all about access controls and spend a good part of my time developing and enforcing them. I currently work for a bank (not as well known or as large as the insurance company you work for) and we have both Prod access methods available to us, with guidance on which is appropriate in what circumstance.
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| In banking and insurance (my last two assignments), developers are explicitly prohibited from accessing any PROD artifact. |
Who said the developer was doing it directly?
I indicate in any earlier post that a user trace might be in response to a production ticket, which could be the support team running it on behalf of a developer, or a developer running the user trace in Prod using a "Break-The-Glass" id activated in response to the ticket.
In all my I.T. years, I've had 2 manufactoring assignments, the rest were in banking & insurance (USA, UK & Australia) so I know all about access controls and spend a good part of my time developing and enforcing them. I currently work for a bank (not as well known or as large as the insurance company you work for) and we have both Prod access methods available to us, with guidance on which is appropriate in what circumstance. |
We wouldn't have access to any log or artifact. We would have to ask someone else to get the artifact then ask specific questions, which the artifact viewer would then answer. Its much better to have your code working before it gets to PROD. Hence, designing and implementing in a proactive sort of way.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Its much better to have your code working before it gets to PROD. Hence, designing and implementing in a proactive sort of way. |
Of course it's better to have working code. But because I lack both your infalibility (as do my development customers, some of whom appear to lack competance) and (as previously discussed) the massively funded and tightly controlled development environment with which you are blessed that prevents any form of production outage, we have proactively designed and implemented a system by which we can identify and resolve code (and other) issues in Prod.
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| Abhinay185127 |
| Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi ,
I was using debugger mode and the second time it was not invoking the subflow.
Soap Input --- Flow order --- 1 terminal--- Compute(Sets environment for logging) -- Logging subflow --- Flow Order --- 2 terminal --- Main Flow Compute(maps and transforms) PROPAGATING to OUT1 terminal -- Logging subflow --- thean again main flow and so on.....
So the secong time it is not going inside the sublow.
Although i was able to resolve the issue. I converted the .subflow to .msgflow and its working absolutely fine now. But really don't know the reason. |
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| goffinf |
| Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Abhinay185127 wrote: |
I converted the .subflow to .msgflow and its working absolutely fine now. But really don't know the reason. |
There are a number of known issues with using subflows under v8. Your comment above indicates you should upgrade your run-time and toolkit to fix pack 2 (8.0.0.2) and apply iFix 001 to your toolkit.
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