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| bruce2359 |
 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Back to the OP: IBM provides little doc about exactly how internal processes work. These are proprietary. IBM may alter their function and behavior at any time. Your curiosity will remain Unsatisfied.
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:26 am Post subject: Re: amqzxma0.exe Process |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| mvic wrote: |
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| Knowledge matters more than the value of it. |
I think differently to this. Knowledge is only useful if you can soon use that knowledge to your (or someone else's) advantage. |
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I dislike the notion of viewing the world soley in terms of personal advantage.
I dislike the notion that knowledge must have immediate value.
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 I agree !
| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Back to the OP: IBM provides little doc about exactly how internal processes work. These are proprietary. IBM may alter their function and behavior at any time. Your curiosity will remain Unsatisfied. |
I agree, with this too.
Curiosity would/should remain unsatisfied until one would come to know the answer for the 'why?'
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| The execution controller is the main qmgr process. It is started by strmqm, but strmqm soon ends, so amqzxma0 is then the main process of the qmgr. If it ends, the qmgr ends (try sending signal 9 to it, on a test system only of course!). It monitors health of the qmgr. It helps when new apps connect to the qmgr. |
Thanks for the information.
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| ..So you'd encourage your son or daughter to investigate the inner workings of your family car? Or your 60 inch plasma? Just for the sheer joy of the knowledge? |
yes.. they can loose the screws of those.. atleast they could play with its dummy version Or the one which is in junk yard & which has been replaced by its latest model.
another example can say like : Until you drive the car.. no matter what or how many times you've read the instructions for driving.. you won't learn it and you can't say that you've applied it. You get the driving license after you pass the written & driving exams. 
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Understanding how MQ works, even the bits that you may never have to touch, leads to a better understanding of the product overall, very likely allowing you to deduce what do in the parts where you will be tinkering. |
Now you see, there's that word - "tinkering". If this wasn't WMQ but your car (or your TV) would you still "tinker" with it? Or would you take it to a dealership to be fixed? |
Atleast I would ask the dealer what you've fixed in it and where was the problem.. or if he can show what he has replaced and with which part of it.. and why the problem occurred.. (if possible that problem can be avoided in future Or fixed before MI happens, by following instructions, that is, what to touch and what not to !!).
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:49 am Post subject: Re: amqzxma0.exe Process |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| vitor wrote: |
| ..So you'd encourage your son or daughter to investigate the inner workings of your family car? Or your 60 inch plasma? Just for the sheer joy of the knowledge? |
yes.. they can loose the screws of those.. atleast they could play with its dummy version Or the one which is in junk yard & which has been replaced by its latest model.
another example can say like : Until you drive the car.. no matter what or how many times you've read the instructions for driving.. you won't learn it and you can't say that you've applied it. You get the driving license after you pass the written & driving exams. |
I don't recall either the UK or US process for obtaining a license asking a single thing about how the car worked.
I am however impressed that you have a junked 60 inch plasma you can let your children play with.
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| Atleast I would ask the dealer what you've fixed in it and where was the problem.. or if he can show what he has replaced and with which part of it.. and why the problem occurred.. (if possible that problem can be avoided in future Or fixed before MI happens, by following instructions, that is, what to touch and what not to !!). |
And if the part of the car in question (as many do these days) has the "no user servicable parts" logo stamped on it what does this achieve?
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to use the automobile to MQ analogy...its true I don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to get a license. I also don't need to know how to issue endmqm to get a MQ license, start a QM up and put a message.
But if I have to or want to change my own oil on my family car (or support / admin MQ at my company), then understanding what's going on under the hood will help.
You may not need to know every last detail about how an oil filter (or amqzxma.exe) does its job, but understanding what it is, why it is, and how it do what it do at even at a 2nd grade level will probably help me do the real actual job at hand better.
You don't have to take things apart and hopefully put them back together to get that high level understanding. It depends how intimately you want to understand something. In our complicated world most things you have to accept at face value and trust the 'magic' that makes them work. Other things you want to understand what they do, and trust they can do it. And other things you want to or need to understand so deeply you could recreate it on your own.
Unless its classified info that opens a security risk, no harm in asking what something is and what it does.
The OP is not asking what is this, what does it do, AND how do I change it, alter it, configure it, or basically FUBAR it.
May I respectfully suggest that the people that are saying don't worry about and don't ask any questions about it are themselves not entirely sure what this thing does? (I admit I also don't know)That they have chosen to accept this component as one of the things that we mercifully don't need to understand and that it just works, its needed by MQ and leave it alone?
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| Vitor |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| The OP is not asking what is this, what does it do, AND how do I change it, alter it, configure it, or basically FUBAR it. |
Well....
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| Cause I was wondering in what all scenarios the execution controller(amqzxma0) comes into picture !! |
I certainly read that as "in what scenarios would I need to change, alter or configure it", to which the answer (given early on) is "if you're doing a hard stop of a queue manager you need to kill it when you reach it's name in the documented sequence of things to kill in a hard stop otherwise don't worry about it".
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| May I respectfully suggest that the people that are saying don't worry about and don't ask any questions about it are themselves not entirely sure what this thing does? (I admit I also don't know)That they have chosen to accept this component as one of the things that we mercifully don't need to understand and that it just works, its needed by MQ and leave it alone? |
I would accept that with the caveat it's on my list of things to understand one day when I have time, but some distance under:
- keeping WMB going day to day
- stopping the WMQ admins stopping WMB going day to day
- stopping the developers stopping WMB going day to day
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then (after a few others, some not work related):
- obtain my Masters
- complete my work on British Political History
- grow the perfect rose
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- learn the inner workings of all the WMB & WMQ processes
- learn to kill my wife's pet bird with an undetectable psychic attack (or at least render it mute)
- be shot by a jealous 22 year old husband at the age of 300
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| nathanw |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:25 am Post subject: Re: amqzxma0.exe Process |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
another example can say like : Until you drive the car.. no matter what or how many times you've read the instructions for driving.. you won't learn it and you can't say that you've applied it. You get the driving license after you pass the written & driving exams.
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Actually I would disagree with that
You take the exams and driving test to show you are at a standard that is deemed safe
You do not learn to drive until you are physically on your own and driving yourself. You really learn to drive after you have passed your test and judging by alot of the people I see driving around the UK some should have their licences revoked.
To put it another way the knowledge can be good but not always practical
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:27 am Post subject: Re: amqzxma0.exe Process |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
Hi,
As we know that amqzxma0.exe process can be found on every machine where mq server package is installed. (v7 or later)
Does anyone know that amqzxma0 process invokes amqrimna program or not ? Cause I was wondering in what all scenarios the execution controller(amqzxma0) comes into picture !!
Any description about both the processes would be much appreciated. Thanks !! |
Do you mean descriptions other than those that can be found by searching google for 'what does the wmq execution controller do'?
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