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| kash3338 |
 Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: Overview of Websphere products |
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Hi,
Can anyone refer any articles/documents on Websphere products WAS, WESB, WPS, WID, Datapower, WTX and WMB.
I can get lots of documents on these products separately and they give too many information about them, but I prefer having a simple article explained with some diagram on what each of these is meant for mainly and how they are linked to each other.
I just need very brief idea on each of these and their uses and advantages. |
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| mvic |
| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Overview of Websphere products |
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Call your IBM salesperson. I am sure they'd be happy to tell you what is available from IBM and how it fits together.
Were there any specific questions you wanted to ask? What are the system requirements you have in hand? |
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| kash3338 |
| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: Re: Overview of Websphere products |
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Shaman
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| mvic wrote: |
Call your IBM salesperson. I am sure they'd be happy to tell you what is available from IBM and how it fits together.
Were there any specific questions you wanted to ask? What are the system requirements you have in hand? |
I just want to know the basic architecture of each and how each one is linked with the other and the advantages of one over the other. Its not to install or chose one of them, but to know more about Websphere products. I dont think I need a IBM sales person for this. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Overview of Websphere products |
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| kash3338 wrote: |
| mvic wrote: |
Call your IBM salesperson. I am sure they'd be happy to tell you what is available from IBM and how it fits together.
Were there any specific questions you wanted to ask? What are the system requirements you have in hand? |
I just want to know the basic architecture of each and how each one is linked with the other and the advantages of one over the other. Its not to install or chose one of them, but to know more about Websphere products. I dont think I need a IBM sales person for this. |
You don't.
But your sales rep will help.
Or you can go look for redbooks. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Overview of Websphere products |
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| kash3338 wrote: |
| WAS, WESB, WPS, WID, Datapower, WTX and WMB. |
WAS is an application container. You deploy Java programs to it.
WESB is a WAS instance with special infrastructure to use Java, JMS and J2EE to perform the functions of an ESB.
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| IBM offers three ESB products: IBM WebSphere ESB, IBM WebSphere Message Broker, IBM WebSphere DataPower Integration Appliance XI50. Selecting an ESB to power your SOA depends upon your requirements. WebSphere ESB is a platform-based ESB and optimized with WebSphere Application server for an integrated SOA platform. WebSphere Message Broker is a platform-independent based ESB and is built for universal connectivity and transformation in heterogeneous IT environments. WebSphere DataPower Integration Appliance XI50 is an appliance-based ESB and is built for simplified deployment and hardened security. Customers face a wide range of ESB requirements from the simple to the complex. |
WPS is an business-level orchestration tool used to make sure business process steps are performed in order and with the proper outcome.
WID
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| WebSphere Integration Developer, or WID, is the tool for use with both WebSphere ESB and WebSphere Process Server. WID is designed to be an easy-to-use tool, targeted at the Integration Developer. WID is built on the Rational Software Development Platform which itself is built on Eclipse. WID does not require the user to be a Java developer in order to build and deploy mediations; however it is can be integrated with Rational Application Developer (RAD) for those customers who wish to write their own Java code. |
WTX is an archaic data transformation tool [IMHO - thanks Vitor] that has been bandaged and patched to keep up with modern standards. It may survive or it may not; there is a debate on that issue. If it survives, it needs a deep-dive rewrite to correct fundamental flaws like thread safety and deployment architecture dependence. Better to use WMB DFDL rather than WTX. It is extremely difficult to automate and control WTX building and deploying due to its proprietary binary source code.
WMB is the heavy-duty ESB product offering, well-rounded, well-supported. In 2010, IBM revenue for WMB licenses exceeded 12 billion and significant product development will continue for years to come.
Datapower is a lightweight ESB appliance built on a RHEL-like embedded Unix. Use it for edge-validation, not as your main ESB.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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you also forgot to highlight the (XML & web services) firewall and crypto facilities offered by DataPower... The Edge might not be clear enough for your audience here... 
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| rekarm01 |
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Overview of Websphere products |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Datapower is is a lightweight ESB appliance ... |
DataPower XI appliances might be described as a "lightweight ESB", but the other DataPower appliances probably wouldn't be.
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| ... built on a RHEL-like embedded Unix. |
No, it is not.  |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Ok, perhaps some more elaboration is needed to understand how DataPower fits in. I was attempting to be brief, but as fjb_saper and rekarm point out, my metaphor is not accurate enough.
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The DataPower XA35 (on the bottom in Figure 1-1) is the entry level product in the line and most representative of the beginnings of the product and DataPower company. The appliance is green, which represents its primary function: to make XML “go faster.”
The XI50 has all the features of the XS40 (and hence the XA35) plus the following:
WebSphere MQ client option
WebSphere Java Message Service (JMS) Jetstream protocol connectivity
TIBCO Enterprise Message Service (EMS) connectivity
IBM IMS Connect client
Database option (DB2, Sybase, Oracle, SQL Server)
Optimized run-time engine for non-XML transformations
The appliances are hardened out of the box. For example:
They are designed with security in mind from the ground up, before anything else.
They are shipped secure by default; virtually every feature is disabled, including the network adapters and administrative interfaces (except for the serial port used to do initial bootstrap). If you want something, you must turn it on!
They have an encrypted file system.
They have no Java, print services, or shareable file system.
They are tamper-proof—backing out the screws on the case disables the appliance.
They have specialized secure handling of crypto keys and certificates.
They have an embedded operating system, not prone to known exposures of common OSs.
They reject messages by default, unless specifically accepted by configured policies.
The DataPower appliances offer much more than what standard XSLT and EXSLT have in their libraries. The appliances support crypto operations and many different protocols that are outside the domain of XSLT and EXSLT. To provide for custom programming that leverages the full scope of functionality on the appliances, they include a complete library of extension functions and elements that can be used for XSLT custom programming. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| you also forgot to highlight the (XML & web services) firewall and crypto facilities offered by DataPower... The Edge might not be clear enough for your audience here... |
The DataPower appliances are meant to disallow any traffic that is not fully validated prior to that traffic entering the DMZ. If you remember, standard firewalls exist in the DMZ and when an outside party wants to connect using SOAP or XML to a Web Service, the traffic processes through the firewall and touches the Web Service inside the firewall, in what is called the secure zone. DataPower appliances improve the security of your infrastructure by living in-front of your typical firewall and DMZ, meaning that they are on the outside of the DMZ and validate the traffic before that traffic ever gets into the DMZ.
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| The XI52 includes mature message-level security and access control functionality. Messages can be filtered, validated, encrypted, and signed, helping to provide more secure enablement of high-value applications. Supported technologies include WS-Security, WS-Policy, WS-SecurityPolicy, WS-ReliableMessaging, WS-SecureConversation, WS-Trust, SAML, and LDAP. The XI52 is a sealed network device for high reliability and increased security assurance. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Revenue on Message Broker et al 4Q10 US$4.7 billion, an increase of 13% from the fourth quarter 2009.
"Revenues from IBM’s key middleware products, which include WebSphere, Information Management, Tivoli, Lotus and Rational products, were $4.7 billion, an increase of 13 percent (15 percent, adjusting for currency) versus the fourth quarter of 2009."
http://www.ibm.com/investor/4q10/press.phtml
For 1Q12: "Revenues from IBM’s key middleware products, which include WebSphere, Information Management, Tivoli, Lotus and Rational products, were $3.5 billion, an increase of 7 percent (up 8 percent, adjusting for currency) versus the first quarter of 2011."
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120417006939/en/IBM-Reports-2012-First-Quarter-Results
Year-over-year WMB license revenue is on a double-digit increase and may top an annual revenue of US$20 billion by the end of the decade.
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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That's pretty impressive. They can certainly afford to give us a $50 amazon voucher per APAR opened then  |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| That's pretty impressive. They can certainly afford to give us a $50 amazon voucher per APAR opened then |
That $50 could more profitably be used to fund bonus payments to hard working IBM staff.
Or better still increased dividend payments to hard pressed share holders (who I accept may also be hard working IBM staff but a little double dipping never hurt anyone).
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