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Esa
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:20 am    Post subject: general discussion not allowed Reply with quote

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Hi all,

take a look at the topics on this first page of General Discussion. How many of the topics are about technical or product specific and should actually be moved to another forum? Allmost all of them, if you ask me.

Wonder why? I posted a real general discussion item yesterday (it was really about discussion in general - with a slightly misleading and provocative title, I must admit) and it has been removed by some moderator. That's why!

However, I could be wrong. I had a very bad line yesterday that kept disconnecting. But I think I double-checked that the I saw my topic where it should have landed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw it but as I was at work couldn't follow the link (YouTube being blocked) and was a little disappointed to see it gone later. I can understand a mod removing it if it looks like spam, but please bear in mind that it takes time to email someone and confirm the post is genuine, and as such removal can often be a first rather than a last resort.
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Esa
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll give it another try when I get home tomorrow.

This time I won't make it look like spam.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looked like spam to me.

But remember I'm not a moderator.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
It looked like spam to me.


Me too, but gave it the benefit of the doubt as I too can't get to YouTube through the corporate content filter & found it gone why I tried to check it from a secured home machine.

Perhaps a little less misleading next time eh? Clearly someone was misled...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it's the one we're chatting about, the link you provided played a YouTube video from Monty Python. While humorous and enjoyable, it was in no way related to WMQ. I deleted it as spam.
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vennela
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
While humorous and enjoyable, it was in no way related to WMQ.


We used to allow those kind of things earlier, maybe when Duncan owned the site, even though not related to WMQ

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18083
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vennela wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
While humorous and enjoyable, it was in no way related to WMQ.


We used to allow those kind of things earlier, maybe when Duncan owned the site, even though not related to WMQ

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18083


Also, it was in the General Discussion, which is open for general discussion.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
it was in no way related to WMQ. I deleted it as spam.


Erm...

Within the letter of the description of the section, General Discussion doesn't have to be related to WMQ. Where non-WMQ discussion crosses the line into spam I'm not sure, though I am sure there is a line somewhere.

And we do discuss stuff not directly related to WMQ/WMB/et al from time to time. Often in threads with a more specific purpose.

FWIW if it had been a url from a less well known poster I probably would have hit the delete button straight off on the assumption it was a link to malware or medicinal products often targeted at men of my age which of course I have no use for.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: general discussion not allowed Reply with quote

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Esa wrote:
Hi all,

take a look at the topics on this first page of General Discussion. How many of the topics are about technical or product specific and should actually be moved to another forum? Allmost all of them, if you ask me.

Wonder why? I posted a real general discussion item yesterday (it was really about discussion in general - with a slightly misleading and provocative title, I must admit) and it has been removed by some moderator. That's why!

However, I could be wrong. I had a very bad line yesterday that kept disconnecting. But I think I double-checked that the I saw my topic where it should have landed.

Clearly, there's lots of general discussion here. Your complaint about things that should be moved to another forum is more about form than content.

If yours was the Monty Python post, I deleted it. I'm not a censor, but more a garbage collector. I've deleted a variety of posts over time that attempt to sell things on e-Bay, or lead to porn or music videos. Nearly all of them had misleading titles.

I likely would have left it if you had titled it "Funny Monty Python video."
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Toronto_MQ
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: general discussion not allowed Reply with quote

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Esa wrote:
Hi all,

take a look at the topics on this first page of General Discussion. How many of the topics are about technical or product specific and should actually be moved to another forum? Allmost all of them, if you ask me.

Wonder why? I posted a real general discussion item yesterday (it was really about discussion in general - with a slightly misleading and provocative title, I must admit) and it has been removed by some moderator. That's why!

However, I could be wrong. I had a very bad line yesterday that kept disconnecting. But I think I double-checked that the I saw my topic where it should have landed.


You do make a good point; other than your 2 threads at the top of this forum, every other one is MQ (or closely related to it). I would have assumed General Discussion would be more for off topic discussion, a place where we can *not* talk about MQ.

But that's just my 2 Canadian cents
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: general discussion not allowed Reply with quote

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Toronto_MQ wrote:
I would have assumed General Discussion would be more for off topic discussion, a place where we can *not* talk about MQ.


Well back in the day....

Toronto_MQ wrote:
But that's just my 2 Canadian cents


2 Canadian cents backed by a AAA rating. That's more than a lot of us can say.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In retrospect, I should not have deleted the Monty Python post. However, I do reserve the right to delete YouTube videos of, say, I Love Lucy and Lost in Space episodes.

There! Is that better?
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Vitor
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
I do reserve the right to delete YouTube videos of, say, I Love Lucy and Lost in Space episodes.


So Will Robinson really is in danger, danger?
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