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exerk
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tanght wrote:
...the point is: when you stop the chin, you can still work with your queues.

The point is that you should not be arbitrarily clearing queues that may contain system-level messages, even if business lines have signed off on clearing queues of their messages.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tanght wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
All of this activity was due to a full pageset? A simple(r) and more direct solution would be to expand the pageset.


It was a testing machines, and the msgs were only testing msgs. it was not not passed to front-end cluster qmgr due to the server not up.

the point is: when you stop the chin, you can still work with your queues.

The point is that the MSTR is the queue manager address space, while the CHIN is the channel (initiator) management address space.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
tanght wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
All of this activity was due to a full pageset? A simple(r) and more direct solution would be to expand the pageset.


It was a testing machines, and the msgs were only testing msgs. it was not not passed to front-end cluster qmgr due to the server not up.

the point is: when you stop the chin, you can still work with your queues.

The point is that the MSTR is the queue manager address space, while the CHIN is the channel (initiator) management address space.


I agree..
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tanght
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
tanght wrote:
...the point is: when you stop the chin, you can still work with your queues.

The point is that you should not be arbitrarily clearing queues that may contain system-level messages, even if business lines have signed off on clearing queues of their messages.


I will spend some more time reading the threads on S.C.T.Q..

thanks for your advice.
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